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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Got paid with 3 Patriot parlays after that nonsense phantom Diggs penalty last week that cost me a a 1K winner

    Smashed it!

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    Got paid with 3 Patriot parlays after that nonsense phantom Diggs penalty last week that cost me a a 1K winner

    Smashed it!

    BINK!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @perkdog said:

    Got paid with 3 Patriot parlays after that nonsense phantom Diggs penalty last week that cost me a a 1K winner

    Smashed it!

    BINK!

    This is a crazy story, this AM I'm doing my thing scrolling through the Draft Kings app and I've literally put in a million parlays on Sunday as everyone paying attention to this thread over the years knows, well I plugged in a couple parlays and every time I tried to put in the ones on paper shown it kicked me off, I got annoyed so I drove to the casino and for like the second time I used the Draft Kings machine there and plugged them both in.

    It was weird how I couldn't put in those parlays at my house, one of them I put in at work the other day and for some reason it wouldn't work at my house when I tried to put in the other 2, just weird but it payed off.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    -3646.47

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2025 4:48PM

    Played the Broncos spread at +6.5 when they had a goose egg. i knew the Giants weren't shutting out the Broncos. Then the Giants scored, the line went to +9.5 and I saw feathers on that stupid bet.

    Then eventually the Broncos score 33 in the 4th Q to win the game? For once I'm pleasantly surprised about a crazy outcome.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also played the Packers +3.5 when they were behind in that game. And they came back and won.

    Missed on a Barkley prop at 50 yards. Thought that one would be easy money, but he only got 44 yards. I thought Barkley with 10 days rest would come back strong. Was not to be, but at least the Eagles won the game.

    I like the Falcons in tonight's game a little bit, but not sure if I'm gonna play it or not.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2025 5:18PM

    @galaxy27 said:
    -3696.47

    Nice pick. Cowboys ate them alive - won every quarter.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Panthers letting Jets hang around.

    Jets are so bad, even when given an opportunity like that, and at home, they still lose.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Denver comeback was remarkable

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Falcons ML live.

    Lost some value in the ML not playing it pre-game. However i like what I'm seeing out there, so I played it. Falcons just kicked a field goal to go up 3-0.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 3 leg parlay scored. 2 out. 1 live into Monday's games.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just realized that our daily bookie update had been paused for some reason.
    .
    ESPN BET
    .

    .

    .
    CAESARS
    .

    .

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The internet, especially Amazon Web Services, and other various websites, has been up and down for around half a day.

    As of right now the Amazon site isn't opening.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i needed 9 receiving yards from Drake London in the final 15 minutes of last night's game to cash

    he didn't catch another pass

    that drove me bananas, so no more SGPs for me

    🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

    -3696.47

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i needed 9 receiving yards from Drake London in the final 15 minutes of last night's game to cash

    he didn't catch another pass

    that drove me bananas, so no more SGPs for me

    🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

    -3696.47

    Been there done that many times brother, Detroit looks good so hopefully you hit your bet!

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    1 3 leg parlay scored. 2 out. 1 live into Monday's games.

    I'm guessing that 3-run homer was quite satisfying. Even though it wasn't over yet at that point.

    Very nice win. 👍

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    World Series:

    Dodgers -215
    Blue Jays +180

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 20, 2025 11:19PM

    @stevek said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    1 3 leg parlay scored. 2 out. 1 live into Monday's games.

    I'm guessing that 3-run homer was quite satisfying. Even though it wasn't over yet at that point.

    Very nice win. 👍

    Thanks, but your congrats are a little early. I have Toronto to win the WS at 11-1. Bet them months ago. The parlays in my post are my 4 Parlays for football. I did hit my other 3 leg parlay with KC ML, Detroit ML and over in the Seahawks game last night. My other 3 leg parlay is hit was NE ML, Carolina ML, And over in GB game. Can't hit 2 leg parlays, but can hit 3 leggers. Go figure.
    Thanks again for the goodwill.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As you saw the odds, the Blue Jays at +180 when the juice is factored in, are around 2-1 to win it.

    You're locked in at a fat 11-1 odds on a 2-1 chance. That's a dam nice position to be in. Yes, the Dodgers are around 1-2 odds, and I'm not saying it will be easy, but certainly you're in the hunt.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NBA season begins tonight.

    The league whereby your big lead in the beginning of the fourth quarter, the chances of it vanishing in the next 12 minutes are in direct proportion to how much you bet on the game. 😐

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i wasn't overly confident in the Texans last night, but i took a stab based on their previous two games + the fact that they were dogs, which made that payout figure awfully appetizing

    as stevek stated, the NBA commences tonight. it's like the Bermuda Triangle of gambling. bettors who regularly unload on pro hoops disappear and are never seen again. i thought about dropping on one of the games tonight, but after much thought i decided that i'd rather live

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i just got sucked into the Bermuda Triangle

    🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️

    -3746.47

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just got sucked into the Bermuda Triangle

    🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️

    -3746.47

    I've been looking at that game. The glutton for punishment thing. LOL

    Although I did do quite well in the previous NBA regular season. Before woefully handicapping the playoffs in a similar manner as the regular season, which was a big mistake.

    You probably know this, LeBron is out for this game, and supposedly may miss a few weeks of the season. I read where he's never before missed an NBA opening game. The question is will the other players step-up or not? The line is saying they won't.

    I think you have it right, either play the Golden State ML...or don't play the game at all. I'm still on the fence.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek

    the NBA is so unpredictable on a game-by-game basis, and even more unpredictable when there's no precedent due to it being the first game of the season

    but i can't help myself

    James being out played a significant role in me not being able to help myself

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just got sucked into the Bermuda Triangle

    🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️ 🔺️

    -3746.47

    Smash it!!!

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just played a couple props. Try to get some confidence builders. LOL

    Kuminga points over 9.5
    Butler points over 11.5

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No NBA for me until NFL is over. Golf takes over then, or a bit sooner. May take a stab at the playoffs/finals once things start to shake out in the NBA.
    Luck to all chasing the NBA.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no bets for moi for the next 4 days

    here's my early wave play for Sunday

    -3591.30

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice hit on GS @galaxy27

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2025 3:22AM

    SGA hit on the 25+ points

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SGA had 35 for the night in a double OT game.

    He probably made the 25 in regulation. But if not, you caught a lucky break with the OT.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW - that 100% parlay boost was extremely nice. Almost too nice, to be honest.

    My two cents on why the bookies might begin acting "nice" is I think Polymarket is poised to soon get on board to allow American wagering. Although Polymarket is not technically a bookie, because they are not making book on the games. It's the public betting against each other, and Polymarket just grabs a cut of the betting transaction.

    Polymarket isn't going to put the bookies out of business. That being said, I think the bookies are scared to death of them, as certainly Polymarket is going to take business from them. Therefore the bookies I think will begin offering more goodies to their customers to keep them playing at their site, and not Polymarket.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    BTW - that 100% parlay boost was extremely nice. Almost too nice, to be honest.

    My two cents on why the bookies might begin acting "nice" is I think Polymarket is poised to soon get on board to allow American wagering. Although Polymarket is not technically a bookie, because they are not making book on the games. It's the public betting against each other, and Polymarket just grabs a cut of the betting transaction.

    Polymarket isn't going to put the bookies out of business. That being said, I think the bookies are scared to death of them, as certainly Polymarket is going to take business from them. Therefore the bookies I think will begin offering more goodies to their customers to keep them playing at their site, and not Polymarket.

    It was opening night so they usually make those type of offers, SGA was the easy part since he covered that easily, OKC barely won

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm pretty sure when I was listening on the radio that SGA had only scored something like 20 at the end of regulation. He got hot in the 4th quarter with a 12 point outburst in one stretch to come from behind and tie the game. I had it on in the background, and wasn't listening that closely, but I don't think he had 25 at the end of regulation.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    I'm pretty sure when I was listening on the radio that SGA had only scored something like 20 at the end of regulation. He got hot in the 4th quarter with a 12 point outburst in one stretch to come from behind and tie the game. I had it on in the background, and wasn't listening that closely, but I don't think he had 25 at the end of regulation.

    At the time when I bet he only had 8 points

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it was BGR here or in another thread, brought up the idea of arbitrage. Considering that Polymarket isn't using any master computer odds making service that I think most if not all bookies use, it will be interesting to see if some arbitrage opportunities come about.

    The thing is you're going to need to be lightening fast on the keyboard, because there of course will be many thousands of others looking at this as well. The arbitrage "opportunity" for free money may close within seconds.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://youtu.be/rUmdSFzequM?si=FiktSjInB13uZHBY

    This is a pretty interesting watch

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2025 9:48AM

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2025 12:29PM

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    They have things in place that trigger red flags, such as an irregular amount of money wagered on a player and the outcome being fairly obvious such as a bettor putting massive amounts of money on "Under bets" for his stats and said player leaving early for some nonsensical injury type of thing.

    One interesting thing to add is Draft Kings put in place this year an "Early exit" coverage, so if you bet on a player and the player leaves the game early due to an injury the bet is voided and you get your money back, or if that players stats is a leg in a parlay that wins all other legs you get paid minus the odds with that player included.

    Early this season in NFL I got paid when that happened and I got my money back on a straight bet on him, I think it was for an anytime TD

    I wondered if this was put in place to combat shenanigans like I mentioned above.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    By coincidence you mention "The Gambler" movie with James Caan. One of my all time favorites. The ending sequence where he is in the ghetto bar and in the end he gets cut by a switchblade. Even then he gambled, tempting fate in that circumstance. I like the scene where he is in the bathtub listening to the basketball game scores. Loses the games and kicks the radio.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    They have things in place that trigger red flags, such as an irregular amount of money wagered on a player and the outcome being fairly obvious such as a bettor putting massive amounts of money on "Under bets" for his stats and said player leaving early for some nonsensical injury type of thing.

    One interesting thing to add is Draft Kings put in place this year an "Early exit" coverage, so if you bet on a player and the player leaves the game early due to an injury the bet is voided and you get your money back, or if that players stats is a leg in a parlay that wins all other legs you get paid minus the odds with that player included.

    Early this season in NFL I got paid when that happened and I got my money back on a straight bet on him, I think it was for an anytime TD

    I wondered if this was put in place to combat shenanigans like I mentioned above.

    I have seen that policy stated on the DK and FD websites. But didn't think about it from the perspective you mentioned. Very interesting thought, and I think you may be on to something there.

    Frankly, I was wondering why the bookies would suddenly become so nice to their players in this regard. But actually I think you may be right, they are protecting themselves as well to combat shenanigans which could cost them a lot of money.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    By coincidence you mention "The Gambler" movie with James Caan. One of my all time favorites. The ending sequence where he is in the ghetto bar and in the end he gets cut by a switchblade. Even then he gambled, tempting fate in that circumstance. I like the scene where he is in the bathtub listening to the basketball game scores. Loses the games and kicks the radio.

    The part that really hit home is when he returned from the casino and assumed he hit those Basketball games when he didn't, all up at halftime then forgotten about until the man comes to collect.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    By coincidence you mention "The Gambler" movie with James Caan. One of my all time favorites. The ending sequence where he is in the ghetto bar and in the end he gets cut by a switchblade. Even then he gambled, tempting fate in that circumstance. I like the scene where he is in the bathtub listening to the basketball game scores. Loses the games and kicks the radio.

    The scene in the ghetto illustrates self-destructive behavior which is common in badly addicted gamblers. Could also be called self-abusive behavior. That same behavior can manifest itself in other addictions as well such as drugs, obesity, etc.

    I recall the bathtub scene where he was rooting for the Lakers. I think Jerry West missed a key bucket, a shot that Jerry West rarely missed. I didn't think of that scene in the same way as the ghetto scene. I'm now wondering if the kicked radio could have possibly wound up in the bathtub and electrocuted him? Or at least that's what the screenwriter wanted to imply? Believe it or not, gambling addiction has the highest suicide rate of any other addiction.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    This is a pretty interesting watch

    I have to agree with the conclusion of the podcaster.

    Basically that those who would be involved, aren't going to risk "everything" over a lousy 45k.

    Now if it was 4.5 mil? 🤔

    I found it tough to believe NY would call in and take away a TD over that kind of money as well but that was just one bet so who knows.

    The amount of plays, games and people involved there is bound to be astronomical things that happen, there are too many people involved in the history of the sport to.all remain basically silent on potential cheating unless it is far less people involved than we know of, you just never know

    As far as players, coaches and referees I feel. collectively that they are all capable of being Stupid, incompetent, unfair, and any other negative thing you can think of when you get screwed, they are capable of being heroes when they help you though

    Michael Franzese, former Mafia captain, who does a popular and interesting podcast about his former life. He did an episode about how the Mafia "recruits" college players for point shaving scandals. I have to believe this still sometimes takes place.

    Pros is an entirely different matter. The legit money made is so enormous these days, even by bench warmers, it would be extremely difficult to recruit players to fix games. But I guess if the Mafia sunk their claws into any player, ref, etc, deep enough, and frightened them enough, anything is possible.

    I know in this thread we've discussed that movie, "The Gambler" with James Caan. While the movie is a fictional story, whoever wrote that screenplay based it on realistic circumstances. A frightened college professor gets in too deep with the Mafia owing them money, and talks his college student into fixing a game. The movie ends at that point when that game is over. However the premise is the Mafia now has their claws in that college student, and will force him to fix more games.

    By coincidence you mention "The Gambler" movie with James Caan. One of my all time favorites. The ending sequence where he is in the ghetto bar and in the end he gets cut by a switchblade. Even then he gambled, tempting fate in that circumstance. I like the scene where he is in the bathtub listening to the basketball game scores. Loses the games and kicks the radio.

    The part that really hit home is when he returned from the casino and assumed he hit those Basketball games when he didn't, all up at halftime then forgotten about until the man comes to collect.

    Caan had a huge run of good luck at the casino with his girlfriend, I think it was 50k, a lot of money back when that movie was made. He should have paid back the Mafia bookie with those winnings, but instead he let it ride on three college hoops bets with another bookie where he still had credit.

    Yea, Caan sure was surprised when that bookie came knocking on his door and told him the bad news. Caan had to hand over all the cash he had just won. And still in debt to the Mafia bookie.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I gotta try to handicap these dam NBA games tonight.

    My work is never done. 😂

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW I thought the remake of the Gambler was horrible

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    BTW I thought the remake of the Gambler was horrible

    i agree. Never watched it in full, only watched a few scenes on Youtube, and it just seemed silly to me. Over acted, unrealistic dialog, etc. No interest in sitting thru the whole thing.

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