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Your opinion versus PCGS, please, on the toning for this 1890-S silver dollar

What looks like a hairline down the reverse is actually on the slab.


Official PCGS account of:

www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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    ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭

    I think PCGS doesn't care for the "toning"

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can you tell us what PCGS's opinion was?

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    Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    can you tell us what PCGS's opinion was?

    +1

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly dipped and retoned. Heavy dip shadows and that purple color doesn't look NT.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2025 2:22PM

    What is the PCGS grade of this coin?

    Appears AU / Toned

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like an excellent ms64 or a possible ms65.

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The sharply defined pull-away under the date and at top of "UNUM" indicate to me that the toning is original.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'm uncomfortable with the purple/blue. the rest looks ok

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks market acceptable to me. I wouldn’t be surprised by a QC details grade but that’s not what I’d call it.

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    Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    QC also

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the Obv, but the Rev colors throw me off a little. Probably QC for me also.

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid 65

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Purple and blue hues seem artificial.

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    PCGS graded it MS-66! Thanks for the opinions!

    Official PCGS account of:

    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whatever it is I would have dipped it before grading. I dont like the look of it.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The toning is neutral in my opinion, although the blue on the back looks a bit off.
    I would not have thought 66.

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fooled me. Although both sides are very clean from marks, the eye appeal is negative, esp. the reverse, for a 66, unless the photo does not do it justice.

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66 seems reasonable to me. The toning looks balanced between warm and cool colors, with a bit of uneven lighting making the reverse look more blue. I wonder how many of the QC guesses were affected by the thread title hinting that PCGS deemed the toning artificial.

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    ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2025 5:14PM

    Good for you..
    Seriously, Good for you.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2025 1:25PM

    .

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:
    PCGS graded it MS-66! Thanks for the opinions!

    What is cert number? Would be interested in seeing the Trueview

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    TallahasseeCoinClubTallahasseeCoinClub Posts: 472 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2025 5:05AM

    What is cert number? Would be interested in seeing the Trueview

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/51340263

    In my opinion, color is not particularly accurate in the TruView, making the coin appear orange when it is not.

    Official PCGS account of:

    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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    By the way, apologies if the title was somehow misleading - that was not at all my intent.

    Official PCGS account of:

    www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:

    What is cert number? Would be interested in seeing the Trueview

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/51340263

    In my opinion, color is not particularly accurate in the TruView, making the coin appear orange when it is not.

    That toning looks much nicer and NT, if asked grade for it would have guessed at least 65, Great looking coin. Would not have guessed dipped on that photo.

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    coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TallahasseeCoinClub said:

    What is cert number? Would be interested in seeing the Trueview

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/51340263

    In my opinion, color is not particularly accurate in the TruView, making the coin appear orange when it is not.

    Wow! A world of difference in the photos. But I do like the look of the coin. Especially in the Tru View photos. I would love to see the coin in hand.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like a gem, which is what a 66 is supposed to be, should wow and pop, creating at least a little excitement with the viewer. The ho hum, if not questionable, toning on this piece is nothing to write home about.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2025 3:34PM

    Looked good to me as a Gem, so I'm glad to see I was right.

    EDITTED to add; Gawd those TV's look terrible.


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    marmacmarmac Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭✭

    True view picture is much nicer than the one you originally posted. It actually reminded me of a coin I owned quite awhile back that I kind regret letting go-

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