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Grading challenge - 1917-S type-1 verses 1917-S type-2 Standing liberty quarters

rec78rec78 Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Hello, I had these coins graded by PCGS- see if you can guess the grades (no cheating) use your opinion to see how close you can get to the grades given by PCGS. I will reveal the grades on Tuesday 9-16.


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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15, VF30

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cheating? How?

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know they don't do this but I am split grading your T-1 coin. The Obverse looks full XF but the reverse lacks some detail and looks VF-30. I will guess slab grade VF-35.
    I gade your T-2 as a staight XF-40. James

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ill go vf 20 and vf 35. We shall see

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IM with johnny. VF20 and VF35

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15
    F20

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I won’t guess the numbers, but why do most rate the second higher?

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15 30

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20
    30

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Creg said:
    I won’t guess the numbers, but why do most rate the second higher?

    Two reasons. First is grading type 1 and type 2 SLQ is different. Second is that the second quarter has more meat on it.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:

    @Creg said:
    I won’t guess the numbers, but why do most rate the second higher?

    Two reasons. First is grading type 1 and type 2 SLQ is different. Second is that the second quarter has more meat on it.

    Primarily on the prominent leg and some of the gown lines. The shield, head etc actually has less detail on the T2, imo.

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks.^^ ^^

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reading the responses, I think a couple people are very close or spot on.

    I saw them as VF20 and VF30


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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15 and 25

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30 and VF30, then.

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    JeffersonFrogJeffersonFrog Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20, 25

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not my series and the usual "duck" in that the photos are not quite first rate, but the first looks better than most F15 coins so will go 20. The second, well, appears certainly better but can't I believe reach 40 so will go with 35.

    T 1. - 20
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 20
    VF 25

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    safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2025 7:57AM

    30 and 35

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15
    30

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2025 4:56AM

    I always under grade these things. I’d say they are both low level VFs, 20 and 25.

    The Standing Liberty design is beautiful when it’s Mint State and well struck. It did not hold up well in circulation in my opinion.

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    Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    25 and 30 respectively.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    T1... F15
    T2... VF25

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    reveal

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    SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    T1, F12 (shot 15)
    T2, VF30, (shot 35)

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    1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20 and 40

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15
    VF20

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    bammbammbammbamm Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    VF25 for each

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    12,25

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2025 7:49AM

    Thanks to all for participating. Only Simon W got both the grades correct (with his shot guesses). I thought that the shield on the type one would kinda even out the grades. Rare to see the entire shield dots in a F15. You are all better graders then me. The shield part on the type 2 seems more worn. Lots of close guesses and many got at least one correct!
    Type one F15
    Type two VF35

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The type 1 definitely looks like a VF20 though.

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