American Silver Eagle Navy Privy, onsale Oct 10 Marine Privy Nov. 10. Marine Privy
WALLE
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I see the mint updated there furture releases, Navy privy will be the next one October 10. Marine Privy November 10
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Will they be “hot”?
October 10 is on a Monday and
November 10 is on a Friday.
I'm in for both.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
@Cranium_Basher73 I’m in for both also, but check your dates 10/10 is Friday and 11/10 is Monday. Wouldn’t want to see you miss them
I am NOT saying that can't change, but of right now, the dates in the OP match the Mint's schedule.
Source: https://www.usmint.gov/product-schedule/2025/
Edited to Add:
The release dates coincide with anniversary date of each branch.
Source: https://readingroom.money.org/military-privy-marks/
I am GUESSING that the Navy release was moved to 10/10/25 because of the federal holiday on 10/13/25.
I wonder if 100,000 will be the mintage limit.....
I am in for both. Love the ASEs and the privy marks. Don’t pay attention to the two behind the curtain. Too many words and very little worthwhile information .
Thanks Walle for posting this update.
Why would it be anything else? Pretty sure they already announced it.
Although, as I'm quite sure @ProofCollection will readily confirm, the actual mintage is none of our business, and can be anything at all, as long as it does not exceed 100K, and as long as ABPP get whatever they need.
So the limit is nothing more than an aspirational number. Hardly worth thinking about.
Startup details for the Navy privy(25NPM).
ats: 72,000
No startup details for Marines privy(25MPM) as of yet.
ats: 0
Got a little dyslexic. Was looking at the calendar at work.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
I just got the days of the week switched up after looking at the calendar hanging up at work.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
October 13 is the Navy's birthday which is also Columbus Day this year.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Maybe this ends up at 80k mintage. 72k + 10% bulk.
RAW may sell for $300 to $350.
I thought the same thing about the High Relief Gold. But the 1200 to ABPP came out of the 8K. It wasn't added to it.
If this isn't going to be 100K, they should disclose. But they won't. ABPP will get 10K from 100K, and 62K will be left for us.
They don't order when the general public does, so the numbers will show what is available to the general public. By then the early birds will have gotten their worms.
True.
The Big's got their worms(Sunflower) a week ahead of us and paid a 5% premium above retail to get them early.
How many worms did the Big's order? 1976 out of 2000 (not 1200) Golden worms were ordered by 8/12 - 3PM ET - well before drop day.
Again, I thought so too, when @Rc5280 first report 8K ATS for the High Relief Gold on 7/28. Sometime between then and 8/21, ATS dropped to around 5800, and that's what went on sale.
No reason not to expect the same thing here. The early birds obviously order through a different channel, but that early, eerily even ATS number, is apparently a real number that includes everything they intend to make available.
Just watch and see whether it goes up, down or stays the same between now and October 10th. My money is on it going down to account for what goes out to ABPP.
ASE privy collectors are not to be underestimated.
Are you sure? We are talking about the US Mint.
It looks like someone screwed up and loaded the wrong number.
Also, the mint likes big even numbers for coins. 7500, 10,000 50,000 75,000.
They don't like 6700 41,250. 55,700. 72,000
Yes. But it also looked like someone screwed up and loaded the wrong number last time. That turns out not to have been the case.
Anything is possible. But, until proven otherwise, I'm going with someone screwing up by prematurely allowing us to see the right number. Not by loading the wrong number.
And, by the way, 72K IS the number they loaded now. It's round because it's an even thousand, even though it doesn't end in a 0 or a 5.
Could be 80,000 minus 8,000 ABPP
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Absolutely! Could also be 100K, with 28K for ABPP. The only caveat is the nice round number.
With the High Relief Gold, I thought the initial 8K meant it would be 10K, with 2K for ABPP. But then the 2K they took came off of the 8K, since only 6K found their way to the website at launch.
So, until I see something to the contrary, I'm going with 72K being the starting number. We'll see.
But again, whatever it is, there really is no reason they can't, or shouldn't, just disclose it. None at all. Because, at this point in the year, they know exactly what they will be producing, and in what quantities, right through the end of 2025.
Whether or not it has already been produced. They ran out of laser privies and went straight to Back Order. Without passing Go, and without collecting $200. They also went straight to Unavailable with High Relief Gold when they ran out. Again, without hesitation, and without producing anything close to the published maximum.
Same with these. While we see 72K, the vast majority of the collecting public has no idea. But the Mint surely knows exactly what they will be doing between now and October 10th, as well as on October 10th. If they are not going to be willing to meet demand up to 100K, they should say so now.
This should NEVER be a mystery. There should only be two relevant numbers -- the amount the market will absorb, and the published maximum mintage. Final sales, for everything, should ALWAYS be the lower of those two numbers.
No reason to play games with planchets, dies, packaging, etc. They have been doing this long enough. They know exactly how to run the railroad. They can hit whatever number they want, on anything -- 300K or 3K.
Why do you keep saying this when they already said what the maximum mintage is. It is up to that number, and no higher. Nowhere does it say they can't make fewer coins.
This is the way the mint has handled coin sales as long as Noah can remember, and he is very old.
Remember the 2024 Au FH coins with 17k mintage?
And even the Mint rep. at the Baltimore Whitman show said they sold out of all 17k coins.
Well lo and behold they only minted 10k.
And as @NJCoin mentioned, the rep was not 'privy' to actual numbers, only what he read on the Mint Website like the rest of us slobs. ☺️
As I recall at the time, an official Mint spokesperson said the same thing to Coin World. They later reported updated numbers, but never explained the discrepancy.
It's a lack of transparency. Plain and simple. Not sure why so many are okay with it, since people do actually make buying decisions based on accurate information.
Not based on maximums that are not represented to reflect actual production intentions. When people finally clue into the fact that the maximums are meaningless, they are going to start ignoring them. And that just might be the beginning of the end of people being willing to pay huge premiums for modern Mint products.
Because lots of people spending good money on things like this don't appreciate being jerked around. Even if some folks here are fine with it. The Big Boys get good information. No reason we can't all be treated with the same respect.
I just don't get why everyone understands how bad it would be for them to buy something based on a maximum number, and then find that the Mint exceeded that number, but just don't see the issue with the flip side, where someone doesn't buy based on a published maximum, only to see the Mint not produce that number, in spite of demand supporting it.
Everyone jumping in here on Friday and Saturday after seeing what was happening, after being on the fence or having no interest at all on Thursday, perfectly makes my point. Yet many here flat out refuse to acknowledge it.
Or, they just like the fact that they have a resource here, with this forum, that gives them information the general public does not have, and that allows them to have an informational advantage. Maybe people will see where I am coming from if the Mint starts masking ATS data, and people take a pass on 12K items that turn out to have 8K final mintages they would have been all over, if only they were given accurate information.
Spouse coins. Nuff said.
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Telling the truth is no longer required!!!!!