@Stuart Even though doubling is seen in the lettering, you need to make sure it is not machine doubling. If you come to Oklahoma City next week, stop by our BCCS club table so we can see your half dollar in hand to confirm.
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@Sedulous. Thanks very much for your kind invitation and sharing your guidance regarding my 1892 Barber Half. 😎👍
I’m not planning to attend the OKC ANA Convention, but would have certainly taken you up on your offer if I was going to be there. 😃
Since I’m not a Barber series specialist, I appreciate the expertise of others who are more familiar with the striking characteristics of them, expressing their opinions that this coin more likely exhibits machine doubling.
When I receive the coin, I’ll carefully examine it under magnification with my Binocular Microscope for a more detailed analysis.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
@JeffMTampa said:
Here’s another one of the 1906 O BQ in AU58:
I purchased the coin in a NGC MS62 holder for $405 and had it graded raw at PCGS. It seems to have a case of the mumps.
Interestingly in Q. David Bower's "A Guide Book of Barber Silver Coins" he states, "On average, the 1906-O is the most weakly struck coin in the series. Usually examples are lightly struck where the upper right of the shield joins the wing and on the eagle's talons,"
Well, made it back from the Oklahoma City ANA WFoM. I have a good number of new Barber newps. Let me start out with this one. A 1911-D Barber Quarter in PCGS VF30 with CAC sticker. This compliments the Redglobe 1911-D in VF30:
1911-D Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
Provenance goes to Al at Desert Moon Numismatics. He has some cool BQ's left last time I checked in: desertmoonnm@yahoo.com
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Both gorgeous Tim. I really like both…..I found that 10D to be a tough one to find without problems (or just being generally ugly). Yours is as nice a VF/XF as I’ve seen.
Continuing on with my OKC ANA newps, this one is a puzzle.
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
So what I want to know is my following '14-P with CAC seems remarkably more detailed than my new pick-up above. It clearly is a stark differentiator visibly when I look at the coin below vs. the previous newp above.
(1) why didn't the following 1914-P BQ PC30 CAC get a gold sticker? (or) (2) why didn't the following coin get a higher grade on the outset? suggestions on next steps?
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC #2
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize I have both CAC coins for the '14-P in VF30. We'll now we know they are both PCGS-holdered.
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous said:
Continuing on with my OKC ANA newps, this one is a puzzle.
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
So what I want to know is my following '14-P with CAC seems remarkably more detailed than my new pick-up above. It clearly is a stark differentiator visibly when I look at the coin below vs. the previous newp above.
(1) why didn't the following 1914-P BQ PC30 CAC get a gold sticker? (or) (2) why didn't the following coin get a higher grade on the outset? suggestions on next steps?
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC #2
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize I have both CAC coins for the '14-P in VF30. We'll now we know they are both PCGS-holdered.
Tim
@sedulous said:
Continuing on with my OKC ANA newps, this one is a puzzle.
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
So what I want to know is my following '14-P with CAC seems remarkably more detailed than my new pick-up above. It clearly is a stark differentiator visibly when I look at the coin below vs. the previous newp above.
(1) why didn't the following 1914-P BQ PC30 CAC get a gold sticker? (or) (2) why didn't the following coin get a higher grade on the outset? suggestions on next steps?
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC #2
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize I have both CAC coins for the '14-P in VF30. We'll now we know they are both PCGS-holdered.
Tim
@sedulous said:
Continuing on with my OKC ANA newps, this one is a puzzle.
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
So what I want to know is my following '14-P with CAC seems remarkably more detailed than my new pick-up above. It clearly is a stark differentiator visibly when I look at the coin below vs. the previous newp above.
(1) why didn't the following 1914-P BQ PC30 CAC get a gold sticker? (or) (2) why didn't the following coin get a higher grade on the outset? suggestions on next steps?
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC #2
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize I have both CAC coins for the '14-P in VF30. We'll now we know they are both PCGS-holdered.
Tim
My opinion- the first coin looks like a 29; not quite a 30. The second coin looks like a 39; not quite a 40. And yes, I know there aren’t 29 or 39 grades. I agree there’s a big difference between the two coins to show the same grade on the holder. But it seems futile to second guess the grading room- it’s not worth the $$ to try again.
Why no gold bean on the second coin? Maybe they ran out of them the day that coin went through. As good of a guess as any.
If the top coin was graded earlier (lower cert. number) versus the bottom one (larger cert Number) graded later on, if that's feasible a case of gradeflation...or tighter grading practices,IDK maybe that's the same thing
How about another bit of a change-up for today. This is from my LCS (local coin shop). It is a New Orleans Mint Barber Half Dollar. It has a lot of the original as-minted features on the reverse.
I am wondering if we can determine the date on the coin from the reverse characteristics? Looking at the O mintmark in both size and position... there even might be an ever-so-slight repunching... my first guess is a 1903-O Barber Half.
Thoughts?
Obviously I would rather have the coin as-minted instead of defaced for some initials and a button hook!
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous said:
How about another bit of a change-up for today. This is from my LCS (local coin shop). It is a New Orleans Mint Barber Half Dollar. It has a lot of the original as-minted features on the reverse.
I am wondering if we can determine the date on the coin from the reverse characteristics? Looking at the O mintmark in both size and position... there even might be an ever-so-slight repunching... my first guess is a 1903-O Barber Half.
Thoughts?
Obviously I would rather have the coin as-minted instead of defaced for some initials and a button hook!
Tim
Looks like it might have been an AU 55. I believe I can see an 1896 on the front.
I’m fairly confident one could determine the date of your Love Token by the MM position, rotation, and depth. It would take a lot of time, however. That would be a great job for Ai.
Here’s the Barber dime currently in my 7070 set. Cracked it out of an NGC 58 holder about 6-7 years ago to put into my Dansco, then submitted the entire Dansco a couple of months ago.
Not an overly difficult date, but certainly a beautiful representative of the type to my eyes. Now PCGS 58.
Comments
Easily seen Stuart in your photos, well done!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Thanks @Sedulous 😎👍
Enlarged PCGS TrueView High Resolution Photos to Better Depict Details
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
@Stuart Even though doubling is seen in the lettering, you need to make sure it is not machine doubling. If you come to Oklahoma City next week, stop by our BCCS club table so we can see your half dollar in hand to confirm.
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@Sedulous. Thanks very much for your kind invitation and sharing your guidance regarding my 1892 Barber Half. 😎👍
I’m not planning to attend the OKC ANA Convention, but would have certainly taken you up on your offer if I was going to be there. 😃
Since I’m not a Barber series specialist, I appreciate the expertise of others who are more familiar with the striking characteristics of them, expressing their opinions that this coin more likely exhibits machine doubling.
When I receive the coin, I’ll carefully examine it under magnification with my Binocular Microscope for a more detailed analysis.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Interestingly in Q. David Bower's "A Guide Book of Barber Silver Coins" he states, "On average, the 1906-O is the most weakly struck coin in the series. Usually examples are lightly struck where the upper right of the shield joins the wing and on the eagle's talons,"
Well, made it back from the Oklahoma City ANA WFoM. I have a good number of new Barber newps. Let me start out with this one. A 1911-D Barber Quarter in PCGS VF30 with CAC sticker. This compliments the Redglobe 1911-D in VF30:
1911-D Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
Provenance goes to Al at Desert Moon Numismatics. He has some cool BQ's left last time I checked in: desertmoonnm@yahoo.com
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim - I look forward to seeing more of your ANA pick-ups!
Dave
Ok Dave, here we go...
1907-P Barber Quarter PCGS XF45 CAC
My comments: Actually tough to get common date anymore in the right grades like this. Thank you Al! @Desert Moon
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
This was one quarter I wasn't planning to obtain going in... but then I saw it in person! Wow.
1910-D Barber Quarter PCGS XF40 CAC
@Dave99B Dave, another one for you!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Both gorgeous Tim. I really like both…..I found that 10D to be a tough one to find without problems (or just being generally ugly). Yours is as nice a VF/XF as I’ve seen.
Great pickups!
Continuing on with my OKC ANA newps, this one is a puzzle.
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC
So what I want to know is my following '14-P with CAC seems remarkably more detailed than my new pick-up above. It clearly is a stark differentiator visibly when I look at the coin below vs. the previous newp above.
(1) why didn't the following 1914-P BQ PC30 CAC get a gold sticker? (or) (2) why didn't the following coin get a higher grade on the outset? suggestions on next steps?
1914-P Barber Quarter PCGS VF30 CAC #2
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize I have both CAC coins for the '14-P in VF30. We'll now we know they are both PCGS-holdered.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
My opinion- the first coin looks like a 29; not quite a 30. The second coin looks like a 39; not quite a 40. And yes, I know there aren’t 29 or 39 grades. I agree there’s a big difference between the two coins to show the same grade on the holder. But it seems futile to second guess the grading room- it’s not worth the $$ to try again.
Why no gold bean on the second coin? Maybe they ran out of them the day that coin went through. As good of a guess as any.
If the top coin was graded earlier (lower cert. number) versus the bottom one (larger cert Number) graded later on, if that's feasible a case of gradeflation...or tighter grading practices,IDK maybe that's the same thing
How about another bit of a change-up for today. This is from my LCS (local coin shop). It is a New Orleans Mint Barber Half Dollar. It has a lot of the original as-minted features on the reverse.
I am wondering if we can determine the date on the coin from the reverse characteristics? Looking at the O mintmark in both size and position... there even might be an ever-so-slight repunching... my first guess is a 1903-O Barber Half.
Thoughts?
Obviously I would rather have the coin as-minted instead of defaced for some initials and a button hook!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Looks like it might have been an AU 55. I believe I can see an 1896 on the front.
Here is a '96 New Orleans half for mintmark position comparison.
Close-up of the button backside mintmark vs. the '96-O vs. a 1903-O (thank you to PCGS CoinFacts):
Seems like finding the right mintmark position for a date determination would be like trying to find a needle in the haystack thing.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I’m fairly confident one could determine the date of your Love Token by the MM position, rotation, and depth. It would take a lot of time, however. That would be a great job for Ai.
Here’s the Barber dime currently in my 7070 set. Cracked it out of an NGC 58 holder about 6-7 years ago to put into my Dansco, then submitted the entire Dansco a couple of months ago.
Not an overly difficult date, but certainly a beautiful representative of the type to my eyes. Now PCGS 58.
Did anybody have luck with the recent fixed price sale of the Valkyries Collection of Barber coins at Harlan J. Berk?