@engmtic said:
I got mine this week. Both me and my buddy received 2 boxes. Same tracking number and everything. We both only ordered one each. Has this happened to anyone else?
seriously, when the dust has settled, the mint may ask you both to return one
my memory is very cloudy, but the mint has tracked someone on here down to return something - either money or product
I was going over the past posts on this thread because I thought that there was a small discussion regarding laser utilization on current Mint produced coins. Especially the ASE. (afterthought, it may have been the Gold 2025 SAC thread)
I just compared a 2019 S PF70 (NGC) "Ultra Cameo" ASE with the 2025 Army Privy.
I realize that this 25AP coin design has its own unique criteria (although I don't know those details).
What I see quite overtly is that the fine detail on the obverse device (Liberty especially her dress etc.) of the 2019 proof ASE is much more detailed and the so called 'frosty cameo' trait 'texture' is quite different than the Army 25AP.The latter seems a bit 'fuzzier' or maybe 'quasi sand blast' like (bad adjectives) and has less pronounced obverse devise details (for example dress lines, folds, sandals, etc.) The reverse Eagle device has great detail, however.
I don't believe it is just my sample because all the pictures flooding online display my basic descriptions.
Not complaining, but I imagine that I am looking at the surface finish 'texture' of the laser work, or simply a new unique obverse detail presentation ??.
@Heubschgold said:
I was going over the past posts on this thread because I thought that there was a small discussion regarding laser utilization on current Mint produced coins. Especially the ASE. (afterthought, it may have been the Gold 2025 SAC thread)
I just compared a 2019 S PF70 (NGC) "Ultra Cameo" ASE with the 2025 Army Privy.
I realize that this 25AP coin design has its own unique criteria (although I don't know those details).
What I see quite overtly is that the fine detail on the obverse device (Liberty especially her dress etc.) of the 2019 proof ASE is much more detailed and the so called 'frosty cameo' trait 'texture' is quite different than the Army 25AP.The latter seems a bit 'fuzzier' or maybe 'quasi sand blast' like (bad adjectives) and has less pronounced obverse devise details (for example dress lines, folds, sandals, etc.) The reverse Eagle device has great detail, however.
I don't believe it is just my sample because all the pictures flooding online display my basic descriptions.
Not complaining, but I imagine that I am looking at the surface finish 'texture' of the laser work, or simply a new unique obverse detail presentation ??.
Any education out there?
Thanks!
Regarding the detail (2019 vs. 2025), don't forget about the redesign in 2021 (i.e., part of the 35th anniversary).
Thanks metroD,that 2021 redesign point seems to explain the softer detail on Liberty in general. However, perhaps the ' grainier' cameo texture may be a trait of laser tools????
@Heubschgold said:
Thanks metroD,that 2021 redesign point seems to explain the softer detail on Liberty in general. However, perhaps the ' grainier' cameo texture may be a trait of laser tools????
The frost on the proof coins has been applied to the dies by laser for several years now (not sure exactly when they started). That accounts for the grainy portraits and devices.
Personally, I'm not a fan. I'd even rather have the whole coin smooth than have the new frosting.
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I was going over the past posts on this thread because I thought that there was a small discussion regarding laser utilization on current Mint produced coins. Especially the ASE. (afterthought, it may have been the Gold 2025 SAC thread)
I just compared a 2019 S PF70 (NGC) "Ultra Cameo" ASE with the 2025 Army Privy.
I realize that this 25AP coin design has its own unique criteria (although I don't know those details).
What I see quite overtly is that the fine detail on the obverse device (Liberty especially her dress etc.) of the 2019 proof ASE is much more detailed and the so called 'frosty cameo' trait 'texture' is quite different than the Army 25AP.The latter seems a bit 'fuzzier' or maybe 'quasi sand blast' like (bad adjectives) and has less pronounced obverse devise details (for example dress lines, folds, sandals, etc.) The reverse Eagle device has great detail, however.
I don't believe it is just my sample because all the pictures flooding online display my basic descriptions.
Not complaining, but I imagine that I am looking at the surface finish 'texture' of the laser work, or simply a new unique obverse detail presentation ??.
Any education out there?
Thanks!
Regarding the detail (2019 vs. 2025), don't forget about the redesign in 2021 (i.e., part of the 35th anniversary).
Reference: https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/mint-releases-new-graphics-of-american-eagle-design-changes
i noticed it too. there is something flat about the new ase's
Thanks metroD,that 2021 redesign point seems to explain the softer detail on Liberty in general. However, perhaps the ' grainier' cameo texture may be a trait of laser tools????
The frost on the proof coins has been applied to the dies by laser for several years now (not sure exactly when they started). That accounts for the grainy portraits and devices.
Personally, I'm not a fan. I'd even rather have the whole coin smooth than have the new frosting.
The coin looks much more attractive in hand. What a beauty, I am impressed.
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