250th Anniversary United States Army American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coin
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250th Anniversary United States Army American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coin
The mint website says this proof coin will be limited to 100,000 coins, and this is low compared to the 2025-W Proof Silver Eagle that went on sale earlier. It has sales of 207,940 so far this year, showing the demand in much higher than only 100,00 coins.
For this reason it is likely to be a quick sell-out, with prices probably doubling in the after-market.
- Presale Date: June 13, 2025
- Shipping is expected to begin July 29, 2025
- The obverse (heads) design is now a closer reflection of Adolph A. Weinman’s original vision and includes the addition of his traditional artist mark
- One troy ounce of .999 fine silver
- Enhanced security features include an anti-counterfeit reeded edge variation
- Crafted at the United States Mint at West Point with a special privy mark honoring the 250th anniversary of the United States Army
Mintage Limit: 100,000
Product Limit: 100,000
Household Order Limit: 3
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Just more "made for collector" bullion.
Also being discussed in this thread: forums.collectors.com/discussion
hhl 3. uh-oh
https://www.usmint.gov/250th-anniversary-united-states-army-american-eagle-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin-25APM.html
A repeated thread of a "new" release to sell overpriced product by the mint. An easy pass.
HHL = 1
https://www.usmint.gov/250th-anniversary-united-states-army-american-eagle-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin-25APM.html
Pass......
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
pfs BuyersClub thinks there is an aftermarket. They are paying a $60 profit on a 3 coin purchase. Not going to get rich on that!
Especially with a HHL of one
WOW!!!! That's crazy for anything with a mintage of 100K. That said, good for the Mint for at least giving collectors a reasonable chance to get one.
The buyer's club action is evidence that these actually have a chance to be a double, given the premium they are offering.
Which means, what exactly? That collectors will get their one and then, rather than a bunch of people having an opportunity to make a few hundred on a flip, a very small group of people will have a chance to make a significant score at noon on Saturday?
Whatever! As long as collectors get a chance to get one, I guess it doesn't really matter precisely who gets the flip thereafter. The scene on Saturday should be similar to that with the FH silver medal, although with no prospect of a lottery ticket prize.
Just a possible double, if the market actually develops. It did with the FH, but, their mintage was 1/3 less than advertised, half of these, and they were a one-off while these are just another flavor of something that has already saturated the market, with more privys yet to come.
HHL was 3, they just lowered it to 1 today.
I'm not sure a $20 premium translates to a double.
I guess we'll see. I'm assuming the buyer's club has a dealer or dealers lined up to take them off their hands at a premium to the $125 they are paying, and then those dealers are going to want to make some money.
I don't see it being significantly less than $200, graded or ungraded. Could be more in the initial frenzy, although, whatever it is, it will surely die down over time, given the FHs are currently selling at around $250 with a mintage of 50K, and given all the other privys to follow,
at 1 hhl, i think these will go for more than several hours if not until the hhl is lifted.
at 3, i was expecting a flipper frenzy
Has the Mint ever not removed the HHL after 24 hours?
i guess technically no, but when there is a few hours sell out the lifting is moot
Yes. With the V75 AGEs, the HHL was never lifted. But that's not this.
The HHL will be lifted at noon on Saturday. Then, just like with the FH silver medals, there will indeed be a flipper frenzy, since, with a HHL of 1, they won't sell out in the first 24 hours. So, they'll sell out in 24 hours and 2 minutes once the HHL is lifted.
Same difference. Just the same amount coins going into fewer hands.
HHL lowered to 1.> @Goldbully said:
Well, at least in this case it's specified in the press release... I assume it was specified in previous PRs as well.
http://ProofCollection.Net
$105 is a lot to pay for less than $37 worth of silver, but of course it will still sell. The sad thing is that to get a graded 70 it will be $200 range. Relatively hard to make much net after selling fees on these Mint offerings except for the initial feeding frenzy.
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I didn’t see anything referring to the HHL staying at 1 after 24 hours.
I could also make the same argument for many of the 4 and 5 figure Morgans that I buy. I pay a lot for ~$31 of silver each time I buy one. At some point you have to stop valuing coins based on their metal content.
Sorry I might have misunderstood the statement. The PR says the HHL is in place for 24 hours.
http://ProofCollection.Net
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Hey thanks, I missed that Mint statement all together. Small print you know! 😉
It won't. All they did was get wind of the buyer's club action, and move the HHL for the first 24 hours from 3 to 1 to counteract it, in order to allow actual collectors to get one from the Mint at $105 if they want one. There will be no HHL after 24 hours, like usual.
Are they reputable? Because that price seems VERY aggressive for something with a mintage of 100K, and a HHL of 1.
Many people who want one will be able to get one at $105. So, where is the market, wholesale or retail, at significantly above $200, given how many the Big Boys were able to obtain in advance?
yes they are reputable. and it is an aggressive bid. i feel so bad for them, i'm suggesting not sticking them with high priced plastic
Pure Technologies is offering $205 each and they pay the shipping.
100,000 minted and bringing these prices???
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That's crazy. Buy yourself a nice classic coin instead of this.
Maybe they know something. Like maybe 100K not being minted. After the FH fiasco, we can't put anything past the Mint.
Unfortunately, after what happened last year, including confusing, contradictory and outright misleading statements given to Coin World by Mint representatives, including changing Product Limits published on the Mint website, we can't really rely on anything they say, and just have to see what happens.
As a result, a $205 bid seems crazy for a $105 product with a 100K mintage and a HHL of 1, 24 hours before release.
But who knows? What if they only sell 50K?
Their defenders will say they can do whatever they want, as long as they don't go over 100K. But people who aren't interested at 100K might be all over it at 50K.
It sure would be nice to be able to rely on what they say. But, after last time, we really can't. All I know is that the pre-sale bid action, and the reduction of the HHL, does seem strange given the published mintage.
Before last year, it never would have occurred to me that they would play games with the published mintages. But then they did. Twice.
So we all know exactly what could happen. TBD what will happen.
At these prices, though, I'll be shocked if anyone who said "hard pass" here in the past few weeks won't be elbowing me in the waiting room at noon tomorrow.
No, per the press release. You really should start paying more attention to what the US Mint actually says rather than relying on prior experiences. > @MsMorrisine said:
You mean, we should take the coins out of the capsule before we send it to them?
http://ProofCollection.Net
Actually, what @NJCoin said is correct and reflects what was in the press release. The HHL was 3 until recept when they dropped it to 1. And they will be removing the HHL 24 hours after release.
Shipping is expected to begin July 29, 2025, so that means they either haven't struck the coins yet, they won't get the packaging until next month, or maybe even both.
Also I wonder why they are doing the pre-order and not just waiting until they get the coins ready, then list them like many others. It is not like they wouldn't sell 100,000 to begin with,
The big question is will the dealer networks get this out with 100,000 orders in before 9am saturday.
The Big Boys got their orders in last week.
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They should. With that much premium, the flippers will all be on
The 250th U.S. Army anniversary is this week.
i hope those dealers already have retail asking
They are doing the pre-order to coincide with the anniversary date, which is 6/14. As you correctly note, whether it's production or packaging issues, they are clearly not ready to ship now, but they didn't want that to interfere with the release.
After all, it's not the first time they accepted pre-orders. Which will make it even more bizarre if they don't sell all 100K.
pinehurst is buying too. too lazy to log in to view offer
Friday the 13th is suppose to be bad luck. It's an odd day for pre-orders.
$205 also
Number 1 in a Privy Trilogy right?
I will probably buy one.
Box of 20
Bet you can’t get more than one.😉
I can't login.
These will sell out I believe. We shall see.
Box of 20
I'm already in the queue. Been there for 10 minutes.
Isn't that the 'waiting room' queue screen?
If you haven't logged-in yet, just wait until your turn, and then log-in.
Now says 20 hour wait time?
Mine is 'More Than A Day'