Is this buff polished or proof?
I feel like someone polished this? But just thought I'd check. I got it and a couple other buffs for free out of a different deal. From what I read in this year they did a satin proof and a brilliant proof
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polished
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Looks polished here as well
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Very polished,,,,
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Polished, scratched, circulated
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somewhat worn dies and, while proofs can be, it is circulated
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You are correct - polished.
It doesn't even have a full horn.
Compare to an 1936 Brilliant Proof from PCGS CoinFacts
and you will see what a proof generally looks like.
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Scratch, polished. Details grade of VF.
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Definitely polished and circulated. Was probably a business strike made for circulation. Here is what a Satin proof should look like.
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Polished to an extreme.
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Polished
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Thank you everyone for confirming.
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Did the dealer imply that it was a proof?
That 2x2 is obviously from the same dealer who gave you two other mislabeled coins.
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Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.
I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
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@JBK said:
Did the dealer imply that it was a proof?That 2x2 is obviously from the same dealer who gave you two other mislabeled coins.
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@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
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@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
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@Gothat3rs said:
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
This coin was in circulation in the 1930's.
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@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
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Eagle looks cleaned.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
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that's some fresh looking pencil
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@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.The eagle is a cleaned cull but it's $1600 melt. If you got it for $1500 plus $100 worth of Morgans, you did pretty good.
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@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
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@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
Good point I didn't think about that
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I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.
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@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
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@IkesT said:
Obviously I was asking the question because I figured it was polished. I came to this forum to learn about coins so was really just trying to confirm my opinion. If I dint ask the questions now how am I gonna know the difference when I come across another one? Seems like the last couple times I post stuff there just ends up being negative feedback. Regardless I got a awsome deal from the shop even if it just comes to melt value for silver and gold.
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I do appreciate all the positive feedback though. Once again just trying to learn and get as much out of the knowledgeable people here that I can.
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don't forget the 1792 half disme found in a junk box
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@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
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@Gothat3rs said:
@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.
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@MFeld said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.
Agreed.
To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.
Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.
Edited: i just checked and the previous (not a) proof Buffalo was a 1937D not a 1936. My apologies for the confusion.
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@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.
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@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.
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@Morgan White said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.
Lol. They do have self- sealing cardboard flips... will that do?
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@jmlanzaf said:
@Morgan White said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.
Lol. They do have self- sealing cardboard flips... will that do?
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@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@PerryHall said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@pcgsregistrycollector said:
@Gothat3rs said:
Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think
That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back
Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
Pretty coolThat flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s
It's NOT a flip.
Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".
They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".
we always called them 2x2s and some of my worst self inflicted staple scratches came from them. :'(
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@jmlanzaf said:
@MFeld said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.
Agreed.
To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.
Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.
There is no such label on the 2x2.
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@yosclimber said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@MFeld said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.
Agreed.
To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.
Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.
There is no such label on the 2x2.
And the OP stated the dealer did not claim it was a proof.He was referring to the nickel in the OP's other thread.
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@JBK said:
@yosclimber said:
@jmlanzaf said:
@MFeld said:
@Gothat3rs said:
@jmlanzaf said:
I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol
It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.
Agreed.
To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.
Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.
There is no such label on the 2x2.
And the OP stated the dealer did not claim it was a proof.He was referring to the nickel in the OP's other thread.
Yes. Thank you. That's what I meant by "first 1936".
But I looked back and it was a 1937D. I have made the correction.
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