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Is this buff polished or proof?

I feel like someone polished this? But just thought I'd check. I got it and a couple other buffs for free out of a different deal. From what I read in this year they did a satin proof and a brilliant proof

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  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭


  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    polished

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks polished here as well

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very polished,,,,

    GrandAm :)
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Polished, scratched, circulated

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    somewhat worn dies and, while proofs can be, it is circulated

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scratch, polished. Details grade of VF.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Polished to an extreme.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Polished

    Investor
  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    Thank you everyone for confirming.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did the dealer imply that it was a proof?

    That 2x2 is obviously from the same dealer who gave you two other mislabeled coins.

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Did the dealer imply that it was a proof?

    That 2x2 is obviously from the same dealer who gave you two other mislabeled coins.

    Replied

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

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  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gothat3rs said:

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's

    This coin was in circulation in the 1930's.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2025 2:31PM

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Eagle looks cleaned.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that's some fresh looking pencil

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2025 5:06PM

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    The eagle is a cleaned cull but it's $1600 melt. If you got it for $1500 plus $100 worth of Morgans, you did pretty good.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2025 6:34PM

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    Good point I didn't think about that

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2025 8:03PM

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    Obviously I was asking the question because I figured it was polished. I came to this forum to learn about coins so was really just trying to confirm my opinion. If I dint ask the questions now how am I gonna know the difference when I come across another one? Seems like the last couple times I post stuff there just ends up being negative feedback. Regardless I got a awsome deal from the shop even if it just comes to melt value for silver and gold.

  • Gothat3rsGothat3rs Posts: 101 ✭✭

    I do appreciate all the positive feedback though. Once again just trying to learn and get as much out of the knowledgeable people here that I can.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    don't forget the 1792 half disme found in a junk box

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

    It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2025 5:35PM

    @MFeld said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

    It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.

    Agreed.

    To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.

    Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.

    Edited: i just checked and the previous (not a) proof Buffalo was a 1937D not a 1936. My apologies for the confusion.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

    We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

    We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

    We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.

    Lol. They do have self- sealing cardboard flips... will that do?

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

    We all know that. You should also know that some people call 2x2's "flips", probably because you flip up the one half to seal it.

    Lol. They do have self- sealing cardboard flips... will that do?

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @Gothat3rs said:
    Yes same dealer, but no implication of proof. I scored a nice gold 10 doller indian head plus 2 nice morgans for 1500 from him. And he just told me I could pick out 3 buffs for free from this pile he had sitting there.

    I got another 1896 I didn't take picture of thismorning but its probably a ms 64 I think. Pretty good deal I think

    That flip must be old. 375.00 for an eagle goes way back

    Yep I researched it. It says about 1930's
    Pretty cool

    That flip is NOT from the 1930s. Probably the 1990s

    It's NOT a flip.

    Actually, some people call them that. You may consider the nit picked. You might also contact Wizard Coin supply as they call them "cardboard flips".

    They should call it a "cardboard coin holder" rather than a flip. A flip is a plastic coin holder with two pockets---one pocket for the coin and another pocket for a cardboard square where information about the coin can be written on it. Collectors would flip the first pocket over to see the coin's reverse and to read what is written on the cardboard square which is why they called it a "flip".

    we always called them 2x2s and some of my worst self inflicted staple scratches came from them. :'(

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

    It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.

    Agreed.

    To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.

    Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.

    There is no such label on the 2x2.
    And the OP stated the dealer did not claim it was a proof.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

    It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.

    Agreed.

    To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.

    Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.

    There is no such label on the 2x2.
    And the OP stated the dealer did not claim it was a proof.

    He was referring to the nickel in the OP's other thread.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2025 5:36PM

    @JBK said:

    @yosclimber said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Gothat3rs said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I would be very careful with that "dealer". He labeled the 1936 Buff "proof" and now he 2x2'ed a heavily polished cull Buffalo.

    Dint understand why that matters if im carefully what i get? The polished buff was in his free basket lol

    It matters to some of us because regardless of how you think he’s treating you, mislabeling a coin like that is either careless or worse, and a red flag to be aware of.

    Agreed.

    To the OP, I'm not sure why my suggestion of caution is anything but a kind suggestion. One should always do due diligence. But you just have to do more work if you are dealing with a dealer who is either ignorant or unscrupulous.

    Labeling the first 1936 as a proof either means he's ignorant of what a proof is or hoping to catch someone unawares. The second one is clearly polished but not labeled as such. One simply can't trust him to identify problem coins or fake coins. Hence my suggestion to be careful.

    There is no such label on the 2x2.
    And the OP stated the dealer did not claim it was a proof.

    He was referring to the nickel in the OP's other thread.

    Yes. Thank you. That's what I meant by "first 1936".
    But I looked back and it was a 1937D. I have made the correction.

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