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Is this still the most controversial coin of the 20th century??

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2025 5:05PM

    I just looked at a bunch of Lincoln cent Whitman Deluxe albums on eBay and couldn’t find any that had a hole for the controversial 1965 Denver Double Dot cent. 🧐

    Mr_Spud

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember the ads in CoinWorld for the ‘double dot’ cent
    In coinWorld and Numismatics news at the time.

    …..was never impressed with it

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see three dots.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see four dots.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got a few of those. Did not buy them, received as a gift.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Controversial? In what way?

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it true that this means it was minted in Denver? Maybe that’s part of the controversy 🧐

    Mr_Spud

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:
    I see four dots.

    I see four and a half now 😆

  • PickinndGrinninPickinndGrinnin Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    When I find my example, I will post it.

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the date of that ad?

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of the early copper plated zinc Lincoln cents were covered with raised dots. :D

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And there is more:


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  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am a little sad. I opened this expecting to see a 1916 Std. Qtr. Never even heard of the other thing. James

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How many dots do you see?

    It's all about what the people want...

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “Is this still the most controversial coin of the 20th century??“

    No. That, which never was in the first place, can’t “still” be, now.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    I must have blinked and missed the controversy

    I think that it was pretty much dead by 1970. I remember seeing it advertised in magazines like "Coins"

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  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never heard of it, and a lot of other numismatic related news was happening in 1965.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, is this something our resident roll searchers should put on their lists?

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    Type I Standing Liberty Quarter has my vote.

    +1

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had an Aunt Dorothy. We called her Dot-Dot for short.😀

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    What is the date of that ad?

    1966 +-

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I had an Aunt Dorothy. We called her Dot-Dot for short.😀

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:

    @mr1931S said:
    I see four dots.

    I see four and a half now 😆

    Anyone going for 5?

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Coinscratch said:

    @mr1931S said:
    I see four dots.

    I see four and a half now 😆

    Anyone going for 5?

    Going once...........................

    Pete

    Lots of dots in the ad. Those prices $12.50,$19.50 etc. And A N.A.,S.C.N.A., T.N.A.😀

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like they were in business from 1963 to 1975

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Coinscratch said:

    @mr1931S said:
    I see four dots.

    I see four and a half now 😆

    Anyone going for 5?

    Going once...........................

    Pete

    Lots of dots in the ad. Those prices $12.50,$19.50 etc. And A N.A.,S.C.N.A., T.N.A.😀

    Yea, that's why coin grading is so subjective. You never see all of the dots the first go round.
    Anyway, what were we talking about again :D

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:

    @DisneyFan said:
    What is the date of that ad?

    1966 +-

    That sounds about right. I remember similar ads at that time promoting these types of coins as the next 1955 double die.

  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭

    Only on British coins do dots get such a rise, to wit the 1936 penny

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's an Indian variety of the 1927 Australian Large Penny that has one more dentil than normal. It sells at a substantial premium to the other Pennies of this date. I think the normal one was 168 dentils, and the Indian variety has 169. The only reason I know this is that I was going through a friend's late father in law's coins. He traveled quite a bit and had a 1927 Australian Large Penny that would grade MS 63 BN.

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  • BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a Kansas City area guy since the early 80s and never heard of Barchers. A little googling pointed me to the Newman Numismatic Portal so I ran this: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/searchwithterms?searchterm=barchers

    Barchers appears to have had two locations on Troost St. in the first half of the 60s. But then around 66 the address I see is the 3802 Broadway address. That doesn't even seem to be an address anymore, but 3800 Broadway is a check cashing joint. :-)

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  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 635 ✭✭✭✭

    @LukeMarshall said:

    THERE...ARE...FOUR...DOTS!!!

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two unc. 1965 double dot cents recently went for $7.50 each on eBay. Not a great return on investment, but it still beats the 1950-D nickel.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2ndCharter said:

    thanks for the info
    boston

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