eBay sellers should read this

WAYNEAS · April 5, 2025 5:29PM

For sellers on eBay beware that many of you are blocking bidders from bidding.
Your account has options that are preventing them from bidding.
A bidder is required to provide a payment method prior to placing a bid.
Not many of us buyers want to allow eBay the right to access our payment accounts.
Would you want anybody to take money from your accounts without you knowing?
You should review your eBay account settings to see what your buyers requirements are.
To do so please read this forum post:

I have recently done some research on this buyer's requirement to provide payment methods prior to bidding.
SELLERS DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THIS OPTION IN THEIR ACCOUNT!
Here is how to do it.
Step#1 Go onto ebay and at the top of the page is a menu "Help & Contact" link. Press this.

Step#2 A "how can we help you today" search bar will be displayed.

Step#3 Type into the search bar the phrase "setting buyers requirements" and hit the search icon.

Step#4 A new page will open. Press on the title "Setting Buyers Requirements.

Step#5 A 2 minute article page will open. About halfway down this article you will see a blue hyper link "Buyer Management".
Press on this link.
Step#6 About halfway down this option list, you will see " Buyers Rules"

Step #7 Uncheck the first two options:
#1Require buyers to provide a payment method before they place a bid and

#2 Require all buyers to provide a payment method before they make an offer.

Step #8 Press "Save all changes".

I spent my time researching how to do this as I have noticed that while searching the listings for the 2025 coins, that many of the

coins that require a bid, now default to the provide requirement payment page.

This happens with new as well as seasoned sellers.

If sellers are happy to not get as many bidders as possible on their items, so be it.

I have notified sellers that this was preventing bidders from bidding.

Basic replys were not friendly.

Wayne

braddick · April 5, 2025 5:31PM

What is the advantage of having a buyer who hasn't provided a payment method to eBay bidding on your auctions?

WAYNEAS · April 5, 2025 5:56PM

@braddick said:
What is the advantage of having a buyer who hasn't provided a payment method to eBay bidding on your auctions?

If you allow ebay to access your account, it allows ebay to take immediate payment from your account on any winning bids or offers on this one current item and on any future bids or offers immediately. This hurts buyers from receiving discounts on shipping reductions on multiple items won and allows them to deduct at anytime money from my account as they seem necessary.
There is no gurantee that if your account is hacked, that they will restore your funds.
Would you provide your bank account info on the internet?
I pay using PaypPal (well over 1000 payments and my only method of payment on eBay) immediatley upon an acceptance of an offer or a winning bid.
eBay knows how I pay!
My feedback is 100% on over 600 feedbacks left for me by buyers all stating immediate payment.
I have never sold an item on eBay or any where else.
Wayne

MsMorrisine · April 5, 2025 6:12PM

npb is the least of the problem

Torey · April 5, 2025 6:14PM

I offer free shipping and 30-day free returns (I pay return shipping). It just got old dealing with non-paying customers, they had to do something about it.

The issue i wish they would address- Some customers want to use Paypal Credit and that has not been an option for the auto pay feature. Still even with that issue, i have not seen any impact on my sales.

Just my 2c.

braddick · April 5, 2025 6:20PM

Good information. Thanks for sharing with us all.
I've been on eBay since 1997 (selling Beanie Babies back in the day) and didn't know most of this.

WAYNEAS · April 5, 2025 6:27PM

@MsMorrisine said:y
npb is the least of the problem

Thou I am not a seller, but if I were to put something up for auction, I would want the most amount of bidders on it as possible.
NBP is an issue but I still have the item and can re-list it.
Yes, a pain but the more bidders, the more money potential gained.
Adding more bidders would surly out weigh the cost of relisting an item back up for sale.
Wayne

WAYNEAS · April 5, 2025 6:36PM

What seller would not like me to bid on and win their item(s) with my feedback and history of payment?
There are many more buyers like me, that sellers. are preventing from bidding because of their account settings.
Wayne

WAYNEAS · April 6, 2025 9:34AM

ttt

cheezhed · April 6, 2025 11:13AM

The same thing can be achieved in Selling Preferences>Your Buyers>Managing who can buy from you>edit

Bikergeek · April 6, 2025 11:26AM

Thanks @WAYNEAS for the info. I made the changes. I rarely sell on eBay, but when I do make a listing, I want bidders like you in the game.

I like to think that the majority of people are well-intentioned. My general philosophy is to be permissive rather than restrictive as long as the risk of permissiveness isn't high. (I lock my car doors when I park, for instance!)

There's a coin dealer in my search list (browser bookmarks) that makes me log on before I can see his listings. (In fairness, it may be because I use a VPN that is also used by nefarious folk, and the domain may be on a "naughty list" somewhere). But having to log on to his site to even see what he's got for sale makes me visit far less frequently. Ain't nobody got time for dat! :-)

braddick · April 6, 2025 11:56AM

@cheezhed said:
The same thing can be achieved in Selling Preferences>Your Buyers>Managing who can buy from you>edit

And to make that even easier, log in to your eBay account and then via Google type, "eBay selling preferences" and the page that pops up will be the exact page you need with you already logged in and ready to make those changes.

Waverlycoins · April 6, 2025 1:30PM

@WAYNEAS thanks to bring this to my attention I’ve now updated my eBay store https://ebay.us/hF2e9r

WAYNEAS · April 6, 2025 1:32PM

@Waverlycoins said:
@WAYNEAS thanks to bring this to my attention I’ve now updated my eBay store https://ebay.us/hF2e9r

Glad to have helped.
Wayne

vintagebanks · April 6, 2025 1:46PM

@WAYNEAS Thanks, I have updated my store also.

jesbroken · April 6, 2025 5:37PM

Thanks Wayne, I wondered when this started. As several bids I have placed this year required selecting payment and had not done this last year. I would imagine Ebay probably did this with the seller unknowingly and said naught. JMO
Jim

WAYNEAS · April 7, 2025 6:38AM

Thanks Jim
Please spread the word to your fellow eBay sellers.
Wayne

messydesk · April 7, 2025 6:56AM

I went looking to see if you could find that without doing a search. Eventually found it here:

My eBay -> Account -> Selling Preferences, scroll down to "Managing who can buy from you" and click Edit.

WAYNEAS · April 7, 2025 7:00AM

@messydesk said:
I went looking to see if you could find that without doing a search. Eventually found it here:

My eBay -> Account -> Selling Preferences, scroll down to "Managing who can buy from you" and click Edit.

Thanks John
Simpler is always better.
Wayne

Coin Finder · April 7, 2025 8:13AM

DONE!, THanks Wayne!!!!

WAYNEAS · April 7, 2025 8:23AM

@Coin Finder said:
DONE!, THanks Wayne!!!!

YEAH!
I was trying to bid on several of your items but could not but now I can!
Wayne

krueger · April 7, 2025 11:46AM

Buying a coin is a WANT not a NEED.
you block me I will go elsewhere , there are thousands
of other dealers. sellers need to sell or inventory gets stale.
One dealer blocked me for returning a $28 coin after I spent about $ 6k from him over many coins and kept everything.
Penny wise and pound foolish as the British say!

vplite99 · April 7, 2025 11:58AM

Thanks for sharing.

WAYNEAS · April 7, 2025 12:02PM

> @vplite99 said:

Thanks for sharing.

You are welcome.
Feel free to share this thread with other sellers you might know.
Wayne

Swampboy · April 7, 2025 1:03PM

Thanks!

WAYNEAS · April 8, 2025 8:55AM

It seems like the word is spreading.
Wayne

WAYNEAS · April 9, 2025 12:18PM

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nencoin · April 9, 2025 12:42PM

Changes made. Thanks very much, Wayne!

WAYNEAS · April 9, 2025 2:57PM

There are still so many sellers out there that just will not take the time to review their settings.
So sellers here who have changed their settings, try to contact a seller and see if you can at least get them to do so.
Wayne

WAYNEAS · April 11, 2025 4:33AM

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lermish · April 11, 2025 6:20AM

@WAYNEAS said:
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This is the second time you've bumped this thread for attention, clearly this means a great deal to you. In the interest of discussion...each person is entitled to do whatever they like but I very strongly disagree with you.

Would you want anybody to take money from your accounts without you knowing?

Making a bid or an offer means that you are authorizing payment. It's a binding offer and the buyer providing payment is what binds it.

I have never sold an item on eBay or any where else.

That explains why you don't understand the shenanigans that occur. I am an occasional seller on eBay, not a dealer. The only thing I want from eBay (as a seller) is a stress free and easy transaction. I don't want to have to chase down buyers for payment or issue invoices or re-list an auction coin after a 7-10 day auction. Accepting an Offer and then waiting for days for payment, or having to relist for non-payment is even worse.

What seller would not like me to bid on and win their item(s) with my feedback and history of payment?

That's totally irrelevant; buyers can't receive negative feedback! I'm confident the vast majority of people on this board stand behind their bids and offers. There are many people here I would happily send a coin to without payment. But this board is not the general eBay public.

There have been past threads about blocking ebay buyers - I probably have more blocked buyers than total sales. I just don't want to deal with it. If someone chooses not to bid because they don't like having a credit card on file, I could not care less. Vaya con dios.

PS - You also said:

I have notified sellers that this was preventing bidders from bidding. Basic replys were not friendly.

I acknowledge I can be fairly prickly but if I randomly received that unsolicited message, I would also be in the not friendly camp.

WAYNEAS · April 11, 2025 7:03AM

@lermish said:

@WAYNEAS said:
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Always a pleasure to read your posts.
Thanks for bumping it.
Wayne

Connecticoin · April 11, 2025 6:08PM

I updated my selling account as well.

As a buyer, I have never been asked to provide a payment method to be able to bid - but that may be because I use a sniping program.

jdmern · April 11, 2025 6:13PM

Thanks for the heads up on that, I didn't know that was selected either!

jmlanzaf · April 11, 2025 6:35PM

@lermish said:

@WAYNEAS said:
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This is the second time you've bumped this thread for attention, clearly this means a great deal to you. In the interest of discussion...each person is entitled to do whatever they like but I very strongly disagree with you.

Would you want anybody to take money from your accounts without you knowing?

Making a bid or an offer means that you are authorizing payment. It's a binding offer and the buyer providing payment is what binds it.

I have never sold an item on eBay or any where else.

That explains why you don't understand the shenanigans that occur. I am an occasional seller on eBay, not a dealer. The only thing I want from eBay (as a seller) is a stress free and easy transaction. I don't want to have to chase down buyers for payment or issue invoices or re-list an auction coin after a 7-10 day auction. Accepting an Offer and then waiting for days for payment, or having to relist for non-payment is even worse.

What seller would not like me to bid on and win their item(s) with my feedback and history of payment?

That's totally irrelevant; buyers can't receive negative feedback! I'm confident the vast majority of people on this board stand behind their bids and offers. There are many people here I would happily send a coin to without payment. But this board is not the general eBay public.

There have been past threads about blocking ebay buyers - I probably have more blocked buyers than total sales. I just don't want to deal with it. If someone chooses not to bid because they don't like having a credit card on file, I could not care less. Vaya con dios.

PS - You also said:

I have notified sellers that this was preventing bidders from bidding. Basic replys were not friendly.

I acknowledge I can be fairly prickly but if I randomly received that unsolicited message, I would also be in the not friendly camp.

I read this thread. I did not change my settings. I have payment options on file with eBay, Amazon, Heritage, Stack's etc. While some people might not wish to, I'm not sure it's my responsibility to accommodate their paranoia. Contrary to the OP assertion that "not many people" would choose to put a payment option on file, the vast majority of buyers have no issue with it at all.

U1chicago · April 11, 2025 7:01PM

I see where the OP is coming from but I tend to view it similarly to how @lermish does. The non payment issue is a serious one and this extra step can help filter out some of those people that will not pay. Also, while it may not seem like a big deal if an item is not paid for, the "you can always relist it and haven't lost anything" mindset does not take into account the fact that items which are quickly relisted lose their "freshness" and there are plenty of people (I've seen it written here before) that will claim the seller is doing something nefarious (shill bidding, cancelling because they did not get enough, etc). Based on a non-payer, a seller can easily lose the underbidder(s) and end up getting much less the next time around. Plus there is the extra time that funds are tied up in a coin.

jmlanzaf · April 12, 2025 4:28PM

@U1chicago said:
I see where the OP is coming from but I tend to view it similarly to how @lermish does. The non payment issue is a serious one and this extra step can help filter out some of those people that will not pay. Also, while it may not seem like a big deal if an item is not paid for, the "you can always relist it and haven't lost anything" mindset does not take into account the fact that items which are quickly relisted lose their "freshness" and there are plenty of people (I've seen it written here before) that will claim the seller is doing something nefarious (shill bidding, cancelling because they did not get enough, etc). Based on a non-payer, a seller can easily lose the underbidder(s) and end up getting much less the next time around. Plus there is the extra time that funds are tied up in a coin.

All valid points. I would also add, since this happened to me, someone can pretend to buy your coin so it is not in direct competition with a similar coin that they are selling. So they fake buy it until their auction ends.

Again, of all the problems you could have on eBay, non-payment is probably the smallest. But I really don't think having a payment method on file when you are bidding in an auction is an unreasonable request. In fact, I would say it is the bare minimum to ensure that you are a legitimate person as well as a legitimate buyer. While I understand that the OP is sure of his bona fides, no one else can be sure and he isn't being personally targeted.

Many people on here call any new poster with a junk coin a "troll", and many of them turn out to be. Those same bored people could also create an eBay account, and place insincere bids on dozens of items.

WAYNEAS · April 12, 2025 5:47PM

Sorry if I am misreading or not understanding some replys here.
To clarify:
I do have a payment method on file with eBay.
My method of payment is thru PayPal with a credit card.
I have used this account to pay for all of my purchases over many years.
The problem is that I will not allow eBay to access this payment method and deduct money from it anytime they wish.
Please review the " make an offer" listing, click on it and read the "fine" print.
It is the same fine print when eBay requests payment info prior to making a bid.
When you agree to their terms, you allow them to make an automatic deduction on this item and any future offers or purchases.
If you allow this, any multiple winnings won by you from the same seller's auctions will remove the shipping discount that might be offered.
eBay states that the seller MAY refund the shipping discount at their discrection.
Some sellers will and some will not.
My original thread was to state that sellers do have the ability to modify their buyer restrictions /options of which many sellers did not know.
When sellers are made aware that they can change these options, some sellers will opt to make these changes, some will not.
Sellers should also know that they can also allow certain buyers to bid on their items no matter what restrictions the seller has in place.

Wayne

lermish · May 5, 2025 4:15PM

I guess @WAYNEAS is not the only one bothered by the autopay. I just received this message (along with my reply, which should not be too surprising given my post earlier in the thread).

WAYNEAS · May 5, 2025 5:55PM

So why not allow bidders with excellent payment history, by pass your restrictions?
Wayne

lermish · May 5, 2025 5:57PM

@WAYNEAS said:
So why not allow bidders with excellent payment history, by pass your restrictions?
Wayne

It doesn't allow the seller to pick and choose...what if he's not the winning bidder?

Even if it's a 1% chance of issues, I'd rather receive one or two increments less than deal with any issues. If it were a more expensive coin I would just send it to GC.

WAYNEAS · May 5, 2025 6:03PM

If a bidder is allowed to bid on your items, what harm does it do your auction if they become an under bidder and do not win the item?
As I said above, the more bidders bid on an item the more the item sells for.
Wayne

lermish · May 5, 2025 6:11PM

Right. But what happens when I remove the auto pay restriction and some random person bids on my auction and decides not to pay for whatever reason?

As the seller, I don't wish to conduct my auction that way and I'm willing to accept a lower price to not have to deal with potentially non-paying bidders.

WAYNEAS · May 5, 2025 6:17PM

Individual bidders can be allowed to bid on your auctions, if you allow them to do so.
You enter their bidders name and only they will be unrestricted in bidding on your items.
All other bidders that are not on your alllowed list, must provide auto pay and are still restricted.
Review your settings as a seller and you will see that this is an option that you control under bidders / buyers restrictions.
Wayne

jmlanzaf · May 5, 2025 6:40PM

@lermish said:

@WAYNEAS said:
So why not allow bidders with excellent payment history, by pass your restrictions?
Wayne

It doesn't allow the seller to pick and choose...what if he's not the winning bidder?

Even if it's a 1% chance of issues, I'd rather receive one or two increments less than deal with any issues. If it were a more expensive coin I would just send it to GC.

You also can't really tell who has an excellent payment history. There are no buyer negatives

WAYNEAS · May 5, 2025 6:54PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@lermish said:

@WAYNEAS said:
So why not allow bidders with excellent payment history, by pass your restrictions?
Wayne

It doesn't allow the seller to pick and choose...what if he's not the winning bidder?

Even if it's a 1% chance of issues, I'd rather receive one or two increments less than deal with any issues. If it were a more expensive coin I would just send it to GC.

You also can't really tell who has an excellent payment history. There are no buyer negatives

If I were to ask you to allow me to bid unrestricted on your auctions, you only need to view and read my buyer's feedback and see what sellers say about my payments.
You still make the final approval or rejection decision.
I think that I will start sending this request to sellers that require pre bid payment info.

Wayne

jmlanzaf · May 6, 2025 9:59AM

@WAYNEAS said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@lermish said:

@WAYNEAS said:
So why not allow bidders with excellent payment history, by pass your restrictions?
Wayne

It doesn't allow the seller to pick and choose...what if he's not the winning bidder?

Even if it's a 1% chance of issues, I'd rather receive one or two increments less than deal with any issues. If it were a more expensive coin I would just send it to GC.

You also can't really tell who has an excellent payment history. There are no buyer negatives

If I were to ask you to allow me to bid unrestricted on your auctions, you only need to view and read my buyer's feedback and see what sellers say about my payments.
You still make the final approval or rejection decision.
I think that I will start sending this request to sellers that require pre bid payment info.

Wayne

No offense, but I'm not going to research buyers. It's a waste of time.

And, as a seller, my account automatically leaves random feedback when you pay. So you could pay, file a charge back, steal my coin from me and your feedback from me would still look positive. You can't know at all how many times you failed to pay because it often leaves no trail whatsoever.

If you don't like the terms of the sale, I'm fine with you not bidding. It is not that unusual for a local auction house to require payment on file and for them to charge that account.

Aspie_Rocco · May 16, 2025 3:53PM

I agree 100% with @WAYNEAS
I think it is tacky to force a payment method when simply placing a bid. For buyers that do not have unpaid strikes it makes no sense. It also makes doing combined shipping overly complicated or not possible in my experience so far.

Re-listing coins is as simple as clicking on one icon and takes seconds or less. I don’t see a valid issue with re-listing at all.

All my eBay buys route through my acorn’s investment account where I get 1% of all purchases invested for me. This new autopay deal completely eliminated my ability to reap the 1% unless I catch the end of auctions within 15 minutes.

WAYNEAS · May 16, 2025 6:12PM

I just noticed this week that several sellers who stated that they would not change their settings to allow bidders the opurtunity to bid without providing payment info, have now changed their settings to allow them to do so.
I am now bidding on their auctions.
My thanks to those sellers who have.
Wayne

oih82w8 · May 16, 2025 6:14PM

I just sold an item and received this notice.

...which probably means that I will get paid within a few days.

WAYNEAS · May 17, 2025 8:36AM

I received this new eBay invoice this morning for an auction that I just won.
I like it as it has all the info on what I won and how much I exactly owe.
I do not believe that it has anything to do with sellers choosing not to allow bidders the opportunity to bid without providing payment info first.
We will see what the future holds.
Wayne

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