@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
I am not sure why it had to be one or the other of those 2 options. Fire Mayo before the final game instead of after and then proceed with replacing the coaching staff.
Sure, it would have been great to get the best of both worlds there but for all we know, the rumors saying that Mayo was definitely canned pregame could just be conspiracy theories from the idiots with microphones. Its pretty sad that we need to do all of these mental gymnastics when talking about our local sports teams but that's the world we live in.
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
shows you how utterly stupid kraft is.
Piss the guy off but let him stay to get fired right after the critical game. who'd a thunk that would happen ?
are there 2 brain cells in the kraft family ? It didn't occur to either of these geniuses that Mayo might decide to stick it to them? Turnabout being fairplay and all
Kraft is a bigger narcissist than gerry jones , oh everyone loves me I'm such a great guy I let Jerrod stay for the last game I'm a beloved local figure !
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
shows you how utterly stupid kraft is.
Piss the guy off but let him stay to get fired right after the critical game. who'd a thunk that would happen ?
are there 2 brain cells in the kraft family ? It didn't occur to either of these geniuses that Mayo might decide to stick it to them? Turnabout being fairplay and all
Kraft is a bigger narcissist than gerry jones , oh everyone loves me I'm such a great guy I let Jerrod stay for the last game I'm a beloved local figure !
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
So you want to bring back Mayo for year two and then fire him two months into the season if he sucks? Bro, that is a horrible option lol.
Mayo unfortunately was collateral damage but the entire franchise is much better off today than they were heading into week 18 back in January. The guy clearly wasn't anywhere close to being ready for a head coaching position.
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
So you want to bring back Mayo for year two and then fire him two months into the season if he sucks? Bro, that is a horrible option lol.
Mayo unfortunately was collateral damage but the entire franchise is much better off today than they were heading into week 18 back in January. The guy clearly wasn't anywhere close to being ready for a head coaching position.
what ? no i had him fired after 6 games of last season, he sucked it was obvious in October
He is so concerned about his image , can't fire Jerrod because it will look bad for me , the benevolent matriarch of patriots nation . Meanwhile , his image is that of a pervert dwarf , no one likes him . He is , in the words of wally from leave it to beaver " a little creep"
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
So you want to bring back Mayo for year two and then fire him two months into the season if he sucks? Bro, that is a horrible option lol.
Mayo unfortunately was collateral damage but the entire franchise is much better off today than they were heading into week 18 back in January. The guy clearly wasn't anywhere close to being ready for a head coaching position.
what ? no i had him fired after 6 games of last season, he sucked it was obvious in October
No first time NFL head coach gets fired 6 games into his first season especially when the entire NFL world knew that the team he was coaching was complete ass to begin with. If that happened you'd be condemning Kraft for that decision right now.
My Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here remark from earlier was meant in good faith and was thinking solely about you not losing your shit for the millionth time after seeing Kraft's name here lol.
Little Bobby K has a sad because Billy B was mean to him , didn't consider his tender feelings about this and that. Mayo was the grossly over supportive suck up whispering in his little hairy hobbit ear . "That thing Bill said to you was wrong , Mr Kraft If I was coach I'd treat you real nice ! "
Mayo acted the part of bobby strip malls therapist and got promoted way beyond his capabilities then when it clearly wasnt working , Kraft and his Kreepy midget family acted like Jerrod was betraying him . UMMM No Bob , you gave the HC job to a parking lot attendant , who wouldn't challenge you , and it blew up. another failed season , man you can't run a team to save your life can you ?
Everytime I see kraft or his george costanza assistant to the travelling secretary son I want to vomit.
@erikthredd said:
I can't really blame Mayo for winning that game when, if the rumors are true, he went into it knowing he would be getting canned immediately after. Playing to win was basically Mayo giving Kraft the finger on his way out the door after he set him up to fail, then firing him when he did.
Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here but all of the blame for that situation falls solely at the feet of Robert Kraft imho.
yes, Mayo never should have been allowed to coach that game if he knew he was getting canned. 100% on Kraft/front office. That meaningless win screwed the team and the fan base.
Here's another way to look at it...Which scenario sounds more promising?
Option 1: We own the 1st overall pick but Mayo is coming back for season two with his somewhat inexperienced coaching staff still in place.
OR
Option 2: We own the 4th overall pick with Vrabel running things along with two of the best coordinators in football in Josh McD & Terrell Williams.
I'm option 2 all day everyday.
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
So you want to bring back Mayo for year two and then fire him two months into the season if he sucks? Bro, that is a horrible option lol.
Mayo unfortunately was collateral damage but the entire franchise is much better off today than they were heading into week 18 back in January. The guy clearly wasn't anywhere close to being ready for a head coaching position.
what ? no i had him fired after 6 games of last season, he sucked it was obvious in October
No first time NFL head coach gets fired 6 games into his first season especially when the entire NFL world knew that the team he was coaching was complete ass to begin with. If that happened you'd be condemning Kraft for that decision right now.
My Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here remark from earlier was meant in good faith and was thinking solely about you not losing your shit for the millionth time after seeing Kraft's name here lol.
@bronco2078 said:
On another forum I post at there is a poster called Bo Bro (short for bobby brown) I thought you meant him . I was like how does he know bo bro ?
But then craig answered you and I began to wonder if craig was bobby brown and everyone knew about it but me
in that one game I was first in the depths of despair and then absolutely elated. both the worst and best game I ever saw.
I was at a buddies house about an hour and a half away and almost left at halftime
Soooooo Glad I didn't
oh man, that would have been terrible. I remember my wife went to bed after the halftime show and I woke her up in the 4th quarter. thought she would be mad because the outcome was still very much in doubt at that time.
Schefter reports that Joe Milton + a 7th traded to the Cowboys for their 5th round comp pick. So they basically got back the 6th rounder that they used on him a year ago.
There was talk yesterday that his agent was really trying hard to get him out of NE so he can go play elsewhere and get a chance to start, i'm not sure Dallas would be that place with Dak starting his new 4yr extension in 2025.
@erikthredd said:
Supposedly there were other teams offering a similar return and the Pats gave Milton the choice on where to go and he chose Dallas.
In the end, this trade just allowed them to move from pick 217 up to pick 171.
these kind of moves make no sense to me. Most of their recent draft picks can't even make the roster , that guy was ok so they trade for some other guy who they pay millions then scrap him for a pick they will probably screw up anyway.
@erikthredd said:
Supposedly there were other teams offering a similar return and the Pats gave Milton the choice on where to go and he chose Dallas.
In the end, this trade just allowed them to move from pick 217 up to pick 171.
these kind of moves make no sense to me. Most of their recent draft picks can't even make the roster , that guy was ok so they trade for some other guy who they pay millions then scrap him for a pick they will probably screw up anyway.
At least they didnt trade for a long snapper
In a game where Buffalo had the 3rd stringers in and the Bills did everything humanly possible to lose that game. Our fanbase has vastly overrated this dude in a meaningless game.
As for what they got in return, the market dictated his worth and it was barely more than the 193rd pick that we used to draft him a year ago. He's got all of the athleticism and arm stength in the world to go with a 10 cent brain, its why every single team passed on him numerous times. Jerry Jones literally passed on drafting him five times in that 2024 draft lol.
Also if this dude was having his agent make trade request in March/April i can just imagine how bad it would be 3-4 months from now. It would have been like the 2024 Matt judon contract BS all over again. Why the hell would Mike Vrabel want to
deal with that? Let him go be Jerry's headache...Good riddance.
@erikthredd said:
Supposedly there were other teams offering a similar return and the Pats gave Milton the choice on where to go and he chose Dallas.
In the end, this trade just allowed them to move from pick 217 up to pick 171.
these kind of moves make no sense to me. Most of their recent draft picks can't even make the roster , that guy was ok so they trade for some other guy who they pay millions then scrap him for a pick they will probably screw up anyway.
At least they didnt trade for a long snapper
In a game where Buffalo had the 3rd stringers in and the Bills did everything humanly possible to lose that game. Our fanbase has vastly overrated this dude in a meaningless game.
As for what they got in return, the market dictated his worth and it was barely more than the 193rd pick that we used to draft him a year ago. He's got all of the athleticism and arm stength in the world to go with a 10 cent brain, its why every single team passed on him numerous times. Jerry Jones literally passed on drafting him five times in that 2024 draft lol.
Also if this dude was having his agent make trade request in March/April i can just imagine how bad it would be 3-4 months from now. It would have been like the 2024 Matt judon contract BS all over again. Why the hell would Mike Vrabel want to
deal with that? Let him go be Jerry's headache...Good riddance.
I just saw him as a backup . Backup QB has been a disaster for at least 10 years . He was making low money and he was better than Brian Hoyer but as long as bailey zappe doesnt show up again I'm good
@erikthredd said:
Supposedly there were other teams offering a similar return and the Pats gave Milton the choice on where to go and he chose Dallas.
In the end, this trade just allowed them to move from pick 217 up to pick 171.
these kind of moves make no sense to me. Most of their recent draft picks can't even make the roster , that guy was ok so they trade for some other guy who they pay millions then scrap him for a pick they will probably screw up anyway.
At least they didnt trade for a long snapper
In a game where Buffalo had the 3rd stringers in and the Bills did everything humanly possible to lose that game. Our fanbase has vastly overrated this dude in a meaningless game.
As for what they got in return, the market dictated his worth and it was barely more than the 193rd pick that we used to draft him a year ago. He's got all of the athleticism and arm stength in the world to go with a 10 cent brain, its why every single team passed on him numerous times. Jerry Jones literally passed on drafting him five times in that 2024 draft lol.
Also if this dude was having his agent make trade request in March/April i can just imagine how bad it would be 3-4 months from now. It would have been like the 2024 Matt judon contract BS all over again. Why the hell would Mike Vrabel want to
deal with that? Let him go be Jerry's headache...Good riddance.
I just saw him as a backup . Backup QB has been a disaster for at least 10 years . He was making low money and he was better than Brian Hoyer but as long as bailey zappe doesnt show up again I'm good
I think that he would have been a decent candidate to be Maye's backup but apparently Joe Milton didn't want that job. He asked to be traded and the team obliged. If I'm going to fault the Pats for anything here its why are you kowtowing to a second year 6th round pick?
At the end of the day Milton has been nothing more than hype going all the way back to his Michigan days and listening to Pats fans cry today has been absolutely hilarious. Some are calling this our Luka trade and others are even trying to make the case that this would be like trading Brady heading into the 2001 training camp. What lol? My favorite though might be WEEI asking if Drake Maye forced this trade because he was insecure. 😂
@Basebal21 You got a few names for mid to late round QBs in this draft that have a similar skill set to Drake Maye? With Milton getting traded there's now talk of NE possibly drafting a developmental QB at some point in the back end of the draft, someone that sort of plays like Maye where NE wouldn't need to change the offense much if the younger guy needs to be thrown in prematurely in the future.
I've reasearched literally every other position in this draft outside of QB (and special teams) and until recently really didn't see the need to spend time on QB but with Milton out the door NE drafting one is now a real possibility.
@erikthredd said: @Basebal21 You got a few names for mid to late round QBs in this draft that have a similar skill set to Drake Maye? With Milton getting traded there's now talk of NE possibly drafting a developmental QB at some point in the back end of the draft, someone that sort of plays like Maye where NE wouldn't need to change the offense much if the younger guy needs to be thrown in prematurely in the future.
I've reasearched literally every other position in this draft outside of QB (and special teams) and until recently really didn't see the need to spend time on QB but with Milton out the door NE drafting one is now a real possibility.
Theres going to be some options late that have upside. Most of the QBs in this draft can run like Maye can so that part shouldnt be an issue, its just the passing which sounds funny to read lol. Milton really should be a late round pick but someones going to do something stupid. Howard should be a late round pick as well but because of his size someone might bite on him early but I dont trust his passing that much. His OSU WRs were just generally always so much better than the guys covering them,
DJ Uiagalelei will be there but he cant read defenses which is what got him chased out of Clemson. Cam Miller from North Dakota State is an interesting one but a little on the smaller side. Not sure how interested they would be after the Zappe thing but ND State has put multiple QBs into the NFL in recent years.
Rourke from Indiana has the mensurables but he was a 6th year senior and they had an extremely weak schedule. Injury issues there as well. I honestly cant figure out whats going to happen with Ewers . The injury concerns I think are scaring some teams off and I wouldnt be surprised if he went in the first round or the 3rd round.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
Good stuff. A lot of those names are new to me and will give me something new to learn about this draft. Riley Leonard seems to be the main name being thrown among fans here as a possible late round pick, I've seen him play once or twice but i couldn't really say how good or bad he is. Many don't seem to trust his passing abilities either.
The overreaction in the NFL world over the Joe Milton trade has been mind boggling. I would have been all for trying to develop him a bit more especially under Josh McDaniels but Milton wanted to try to gind a better situation for him. From what I saw from him in the short time that he was here, it seemed like his peak would have been a slightly better version of
how Cam Newton looked in that one season as a Patriot.
Cam Miller from North Dakota State is an interesting one but a little on the smaller side. Not sure how interested they would be after the Zappe thing but ND State has put multiple QBs into the NFL in recent years.
Could some of that success be due to how good some of ND State's recent offensive linemen have been? Between Cody Mauch and Grey Zabel, that must have been a great foundation for their OL.
I'd love to see Zabel end up in NE, Will Campbell & Ozzy Trapilo too. That would probably be my number one crazy draft wish. My other one would be to somehow pair Travis Hunter & Drake Maye for the next 10 years. Wishful thinking, i know lol.
I should add I meant to say Milroe not Milton before for the draft thing. I mix them up a lot name wise theyre such similar players to me. Look awesome in practice, have some great moments and have games you wonder how theyre even on the field. I dont get the whole uproar over the Milton trade. If youre playing Madden on Xbox hes a great player, but hes not and NFL starter without improvement. I do think Milton is better than Milroe though but Milroe seems to be headed to being a first round pick like Richardson
For Miller, I am generally a huge skeptic of FCS players especially QBs but for a backup they have put a few of them in the league and even Carson Wentz. ND State is basically the Bama/Georgia of the FCS though theyve won something like 10 national championships since 2010. Funny enough South Dakota State was the one that gave them a little bit of a drought, somehow the Dakotas control the FCS lol. That success could definitely be that theyre just so much better but for a 6th or 7th round pick that probably isnt going to be very productive anyways could be worth a shot.
I kind of like Cook the best for the late round QB backup. He had an elite WR and very good RB but there was nothing over powering and he had to elevate guys. He also should have missed a bunch of games and just refused not to from his ankle. He ended up missing some time from a wrist injury against Bama which if I remember right he hit his hand on someones helmet throwing. He wanted to come back in but the score was the point where they just said no
I wouldnt use any pick on DJ or Riley. Shough the Louisville QB is the other one that looks the part at 6'5 but thats another one that was a 7th year senior and the ACC was bad this year that he got to play against
I think Hunter will be off the board when they draft in the first in which case take Campbell of MicMillan.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
I think that both could be possible but would definitely go with Burden if hes still there in the second. Youre right that theres a good chance that Burden wont be there in the second round but if he is definitely take him and Cook will almost certainly be there later on. Bond from Texas just got arrested which elevates the stock of Burdon thinning our the WR group. I dont know if the charges are legit but that will scare some teams off and maybe give a chance of grabbing him later on if hes cleared. With Maye on the roster I wouldnt use a first or second round pick on a QB and think theres probably a pretty good chance of being able to get Cook in the 4th or 5th round.
That is an interesting point of how fans might react if Burdon and Cook are on the same roster but Maye has to be the guy unless he gets hurt.
For the RBs with how theyve been devalued by the league a Judkins or Henderson might still be there in the 3rd. Check out Ollie Gordon too. He was an absolute stud in 2023 and for whatever reason Oklahoma State fell off a cliff last year and really hurt his numbers. Im not sure how teams will react to that but if he was able to get into the draft last year he would have been a first or second rounder that could easily fall this year. Sampson from Tennesse seems to be getting under valued by the media as well.
Warren is probably the best TE that wont be an option, but Taylor from LSU and Helm from Texas one of those two will likely be a third round option too if not later on. Both big boys
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
I think that both could be possible but would definitely go with Burden if hes still there in the second. Youre right that theres a good chance that Burden wont be there in the second round but if he is definitely take him and Cook will almost certainly be there later on. Bond from Texas just got arrested which elevates the stock of Burdon thinning our the WR group. I dont know if the charges are legit but that will scare some teams off and maybe give a chance of grabbing him later on if hes cleared. With Maye on the roster I wouldnt use a first or second round pick on a QB and think theres probably a pretty good chance of being able to get Cook in the 4th or 5th round.
That is an interesting point of how fans might react if Burdon and Cook are on the same roster but Maye has to be the guy unless he gets hurt.
For the RBs with how theyve been devalued by the league a Judkins or Henderson might still be there in the 3rd. Check out Ollie Gordon too. He was an absolute stud in 2023 and for whatever reason Oklahoma State fell off a cliff last year and really hurt his numbers. Im not sure how teams will react to that but if he was able to get into the draft last year he would have been a first or second rounder that could easily fall this year. Sampson from Tennesse seems to be getting under valued by the media as well.
Warren is probably the best TE that wont be an option, but Taylor from LSU and Helm from Texas one of those two will likely be a third round option too if not later on. Both big boys
I'd de be happy with any of those RBs you named, Skattebo & Kaleb Johnson too. Sampson was one that NE actually used one of their visits on so he might be someone to keep an eye on.
With NE's history of finding good young receiving/3rd down type of backs there's been an emphasis here in seeing who could fill that type of role and my favorite has to be Bhayshul Tuten, the dude is fast and kind of reminds me of former Patriot Dion Lewis. LeQuint Allen, Brashard Smith & Woody Marks are a few other names that get mentioned frequently too.
I'd absoutely love to see Mason Taylor end up in NE, maybe even go TE over WR if he's available. He's not Gronk but he's only 20 and I think that he's going to get better as he gets older. Having that NFL pedigree is a huge plus in his favor too.
I don't see NE using a 1st rounder on Warren or Loveland, Arroyo might be a good alternative if Taylor is gone and while I would be happy if Helm,Fannin or Ferguson ended up in NE I'd probably prefer to draft other positions in their draft range.
One other TE that I really like is Jackson Hawes, not really for his pass catching abilities which I think could still get better but because he's a mauler in the run game. the Pats haven't had that type of TE on the roster for awhile a now. More than once I've heard his name being mentioned as the best all around run blocker in this draft,including offensive linemen.
There's been talk of the fullback position possibly making a return to NE's offense and Hawes blocking skills could fit there. Mitchell Evans & Robbie Outz are two others also mentioned as possibilities.
If Santa came in filling draft wishes, I'd have us landing Taylor, Tuten & Hawes. Maybe even a Skattebo if they decide to pass up on another WR. I'd rather just see them try to develop the four they just drafted (Polk,Baker,Boutte,Douglas) before continuing to add similar types into that WR room. Maybe a guy with good size much later in the draft like Dont'e Thornton, Isaac TeSlaa, Nick Nash or Pat Bryant although there might not be much difference between Mack Hollins and one of that group.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
I think that both could be possible but would definitely go with Burden if hes still there in the second. Youre right that theres a good chance that Burden wont be there in the second round but if he is definitely take him and Cook will almost certainly be there later on. Bond from Texas just got arrested which elevates the stock of Burdon thinning our the WR group. I dont know if the charges are legit but that will scare some teams off and maybe give a chance of grabbing him later on if hes cleared. With Maye on the roster I wouldnt use a first or second round pick on a QB and think theres probably a pretty good chance of being able to get Cook in the 4th or 5th round.
That is an interesting point of how fans might react if Burdon and Cook are on the same roster but Maye has to be the guy unless he gets hurt.
For the RBs with how theyve been devalued by the league a Judkins or Henderson might still be there in the 3rd. Check out Ollie Gordon too. He was an absolute stud in 2023 and for whatever reason Oklahoma State fell off a cliff last year and really hurt his numbers. Im not sure how teams will react to that but if he was able to get into the draft last year he would have been a first or second rounder that could easily fall this year. Sampson from Tennesse seems to be getting under valued by the media as well.
Warren is probably the best TE that wont be an option, but Taylor from LSU and Helm from Texas one of those two will likely be a third round option too if not later on. Both big boys
I'd de be happy with any of those RBs you named, Skattebo & Kaleb Johnson too. Sampson was one that NE actually used one of their visits on so he might be someone to keep an eye on.
With NE's history of finding good young receiving/3rd down type of backs there's been an emphasis here in seeing who could fill that type of role and my favorite has to be Bhayshul Tuten, the dude is fast and kind of reminds me of former Patriot Dion Lewis. LeQuint Allen, Brashard Smith & Woody Marks are a few other names that get mentioned frequently too.
I'd absoutely love to see Mason Taylor end up in NE, maybe even go TE over WR if he's available. He's not Gronk but he's only 20 and I think that he's going to get better as he gets older. Having that NFL pedigree is a huge plus in his favor too.
I don't see NE using a 1st rounder on Warren or Loveland, Arroyo might be a good alternative if Taylor is gone and while I would be happy if Helm,Fannin or Ferguson ended up in NE I'd probably prefer to draft other positions in their draft range.
One other TE that I really like is Jackson Hawes, not really for his pass catching abilities which I think could still get better but because he's a mauler in the run game. the Pats haven't had that type of TE on the roster for awhile a now. More than once I've heard his name being mentioned as the best all around run blocker in this draft,including offensive linemen.
There's been talk of the fullback position possibly making a return to NE's offense and Hawes blocking skills could fit there. Mitchell Evans & Robbie Outz are two others also mentioned as possibilities.
If Santa came in filling draft wishes, I'd have us landing Taylor, Tuten & Hawes. Maybe even a Skattebo if they decide to pass up on another WR. I'd rather just see them try to develop the four they just drafted (Polk,Baker,Boutte,Douglas) before continuing to add similar types into that WR room. Maybe a guy with good size much later in the draft like Dont'e Thornton, Isaac TeSlaa, Nick Nash or Pat Bryant although there might not be much difference between Mack Hollins and one of that group.
Skattabo could definitely be a steal for someone late in the draft. Im not as sold on Johnson since Iowa basically had their offense designed around running the ball but he does have size.
One WR I think will be around late because of his size is Xavier Restrepo who is better than his size. Great route runner with speed and can definitely help teams if hes used right and not expected to be the number 1. Ayomanor from Stanford is worth a look too.
Id still take Buden over Taylor is both happen to be there in the second round. I get the felling Taylor will probably go to Miami in the 2nd. I think theres more of a gap between the top WRs and the rest than there is with the top TEs where you can get a productive one later on. I'm not really sure Boutte will mix any better with Vrabs than he did with Belli. Up to this point he generally doesnt mix well or try every play if hes not the number 1 but certainly has a bunch of talent.
Assuming they dont trade down I think the Christmas draft thats realistic would be Campbell or Hunter if he happens to be there, then a Buden Golden Ebuka or Higgins if they want size with who every is still in the second, third round with two picks grab a TE and one of the Edge guys as there are a ton of good ones in this draft, 4th grab one of the RBs or Cook and do the other for the 5th and then the 7ths are kind of throwaways just see whats left
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
I think that both could be possible but would definitely go with Burden if hes still there in the second. Youre right that theres a good chance that Burden wont be there in the second round but if he is definitely take him and Cook will almost certainly be there later on. Bond from Texas just got arrested which elevates the stock of Burdon thinning our the WR group. I dont know if the charges are legit but that will scare some teams off and maybe give a chance of grabbing him later on if hes cleared. With Maye on the roster I wouldnt use a first or second round pick on a QB and think theres probably a pretty good chance of being able to get Cook in the 4th or 5th round.
That is an interesting point of how fans might react if Burdon and Cook are on the same roster but Maye has to be the guy unless he gets hurt.
For the RBs with how theyve been devalued by the league a Judkins or Henderson might still be there in the 3rd. Check out Ollie Gordon too. He was an absolute stud in 2023 and for whatever reason Oklahoma State fell off a cliff last year and really hurt his numbers. Im not sure how teams will react to that but if he was able to get into the draft last year he would have been a first or second rounder that could easily fall this year. Sampson from Tennesse seems to be getting under valued by the media as well.
Warren is probably the best TE that wont be an option, but Taylor from LSU and Helm from Texas one of those two will likely be a third round option too if not later on. Both big boys
I'd de be happy with any of those RBs you named, Skattebo & Kaleb Johnson too. Sampson was one that NE actually used one of their visits on so he might be someone to keep an eye on.
With NE's history of finding good young receiving/3rd down type of backs there's been an emphasis here in seeing who could fill that type of role and my favorite has to be Bhayshul Tuten, the dude is fast and kind of reminds me of former Patriot Dion Lewis. LeQuint Allen, Brashard Smith & Woody Marks are a few other names that get mentioned frequently too.
I'd absoutely love to see Mason Taylor end up in NE, maybe even go TE over WR if he's available. He's not Gronk but he's only 20 and I think that he's going to get better as he gets older. Having that NFL pedigree is a huge plus in his favor too.
I don't see NE using a 1st rounder on Warren or Loveland, Arroyo might be a good alternative if Taylor is gone and while I would be happy if Helm,Fannin or Ferguson ended up in NE I'd probably prefer to draft other positions in their draft range.
One other TE that I really like is Jackson Hawes, not really for his pass catching abilities which I think could still get better but because he's a mauler in the run game. the Pats haven't had that type of TE on the roster for awhile a now. More than once I've heard his name being mentioned as the best all around run blocker in this draft,including offensive linemen.
There's been talk of the fullback position possibly making a return to NE's offense and Hawes blocking skills could fit there. Mitchell Evans & Robbie Outz are two others also mentioned as possibilities.
If Santa came in filling draft wishes, I'd have us landing Taylor, Tuten & Hawes. Maybe even a Skattebo if they decide to pass up on another WR. I'd rather just see them try to develop the four they just drafted (Polk,Baker,Boutte,Douglas) before continuing to add similar types into that WR room. Maybe a guy with good size much later in the draft like Dont'e Thornton, Isaac TeSlaa, Nick Nash or Pat Bryant although there might not be much difference between Mack Hollins and one of that group.
One WR I think will be around late because of his size is Xavier Restrepo who is better than his size. Great route runner with speed and can definitely help teams if hes used right and not expected to be the number 1. Ayomanor from Stanford is worth a look too.
He was mocked quite a bit to NE for awhile , probably just because of their history of playing through slot wideouts, but once he ran his 40 at his pro day he's fallen as one of the favorites to land here. The new guy everyone wants is ISU's Jaylin Noel if Egbuka isn't an option. Noel definitely has that Edelman look to his game where he might be #1 guy from the slot, I doubt that Pop Douglas is viewed as a long term answer there.
Its going to be interesting to see how Vrabel & McDaniels build this offense around Maye. Brady's strength was getting the ball out lightning fast and having those quicker smaller speedy guys were always the best fit but Maye isn't Brady in that regard. He played well throwing to two TEs last season and had some success with Boutte down the field so it probably makes sense to find that big X guy. Ayomanor definitely fits the bill there. Maybe even double up on two big outside guys with someone like Dont'e Thornton on the other side who's 6-5, 200+ and ran a 4.3 40 time. Tre Harris is another big WR that I really like.
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I am not sure why it had to be one or the other of those 2 options. Fire Mayo before the final game instead of after and then proceed with replacing the coaching staff.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Sure, it would have been great to get the best of both worlds there but for all we know, the rumors saying that Mayo was definitely canned pregame could just be conspiracy theories from the idiots with microphones. Its pretty sad that we need to do all of these mental gymnastics when talking about our local sports teams but that's the world we live in.
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shows you how utterly stupid kraft is.
Piss the guy off but let him stay to get fired right after the critical game. who'd a thunk that would happen ?
are there 2 brain cells in the kraft family ? It didn't occur to either of these geniuses that Mayo might decide to stick it to them? Turnabout being fairplay and all
Kraft is a bigger narcissist than gerry jones , oh everyone loves me I'm such a great guy I let Jerrod stay for the last game I'm a beloved local figure !
loser
Those aren't the options
If Mayo sucks fire him in week 6 if things improve ok otherwise tank
Your speech needs a standing ovation. 😉👍
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So you want to bring back Mayo for year two and then fire him two months into the season if he sucks? Bro, that is a horrible option lol.
Mayo unfortunately was collateral damage but the entire franchise is much better off today than they were heading into week 18 back in January. The guy clearly wasn't anywhere close to being ready for a head coaching position.
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what ? no i had him fired after 6 games of last season, he sucked it was obvious in October
He is so concerned about his image , can't fire Jerrod because it will look bad for me , the benevolent matriarch of patriots nation . Meanwhile , his image is that of a pervert dwarf , no one likes him . He is , in the words of wally from leave it to beaver " a little creep"
No first time NFL head coach gets fired 6 games into his first season especially when the entire NFL world knew that the team he was coaching was complete ass to begin with. If that happened you'd be condemning Kraft for that decision right now.
My Not to rile up our bro' Bro' here remark from earlier was meant in good faith and was thinking solely about you not losing your shit for the millionth time after seeing Kraft's name here lol.
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Little Bobby K has a sad because Billy B was mean to him , didn't consider his tender feelings about this and that. Mayo was the grossly over supportive suck up whispering in his little hairy hobbit ear . "That thing Bill said to you was wrong , Mr Kraft
If I was coach I'd treat you real nice ! "
Mayo acted the part of bobby strip malls therapist and got promoted way beyond his capabilities then when it clearly wasnt working , Kraft and his Kreepy midget family acted like Jerrod was betraying him . UMMM No Bob , you gave the HC job to a parking lot attendant , who wouldn't challenge you , and it blew up. another failed season , man you can't run a team to save your life can you ?
Everytime I see kraft or his george costanza assistant to the travelling secretary son I want to vomit.
apostrophes confuse me !
On another forum I post at there is a poster called Bo Bro (short for bobby brown) I thought you meant him . I was like how does he know bo bro ?
But then craig answered you and I began to wonder if craig was bobby brown and everyone knew about it but me
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I've been up for like 40 hours
Alright everyone, you all have to be very very quiet about the whole me being Bo Bro thing.
I think Bronco is starting to catch on.
If he finds out, things are going to get real wierd...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Bo bro isn't his real name , he has a picture of Bobbi Brown for his avatar
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Drake Maye tells us how he really feels about the Stefon Diggs signing. 😎
(NSFW)
https://x.com/TitleTalkTCL/status/1905635930280788059
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in that one game I was first in the depths of despair and then absolutely elated. both the worst and best game I ever saw.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I was at a buddies house about an hour and a half away and almost left at halftime
Soooooo Glad I didn't
imagine how atlantas 7 fans felt
oh man, that would have been terrible. I remember my wife went to bed after the halftime show and I woke her up in the 4th quarter. thought she would be mad because the outcome was still very much in doubt at that time.
she was not mad
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Me and my buddy at Dicks immediately after the game to.get the Pats spoils of victory gear
Schefter reports that Joe Milton + a 7th traded to the Cowboys for their 5th round comp pick. So they basically got back the 6th rounder that they used on him a year ago.
There was talk yesterday that his agent was really trying hard to get him out of NE so he can go play elsewhere and get a chance to start, i'm not sure Dallas would be that place with Dak starting his new 4yr extension in 2025.
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I would take that trade.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Supposedly there were other teams offering a similar return and the Pats gave Milton the choice on where to go and he chose Dallas.
In the end, this trade just allowed them to move from pick 217 up to pick 171.
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these kind of moves make no sense to me. Most of their recent draft picks can't even make the roster , that guy was ok so they trade for some other guy who they pay millions then scrap him for a pick they will probably screw up anyway.
At least they didnt trade for a long snapper
In a game where Buffalo had the 3rd stringers in and the Bills did everything humanly possible to lose that game. Our fanbase has vastly overrated this dude in a meaningless game.
As for what they got in return, the market dictated his worth and it was barely more than the 193rd pick that we used to draft him a year ago. He's got all of the athleticism and arm stength in the world to go with a 10 cent brain, its why every single team passed on him numerous times. Jerry Jones literally passed on drafting him five times in that 2024 draft lol.
Also if this dude was having his agent make trade request in March/April i can just imagine how bad it would be 3-4 months from now. It would have been like the 2024 Matt judon contract BS all over again. Why the hell would Mike Vrabel want to
deal with that? Let him go be Jerry's headache...Good riddance.
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I just saw him as a backup . Backup QB has been a disaster for at least 10 years . He was making low money and he was better than Brian Hoyer but as long as bailey zappe doesnt show up again I'm good
I think that he would have been a decent candidate to be Maye's backup but apparently Joe Milton didn't want that job. He asked to be traded and the team obliged. If I'm going to fault the Pats for anything here its why are you kowtowing to a second year 6th round pick?
At the end of the day Milton has been nothing more than hype going all the way back to his Michigan days and listening to Pats fans cry today has been absolutely hilarious. Some are calling this our Luka trade and others are even trying to make the case that this would be like trading Brady heading into the 2001 training camp. What lol? My favorite though might be WEEI asking if Drake Maye forced this trade because he was insecure. 😂
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milton is ok just steer clear of blue hill avenue
@Basebal21 You got a few names for mid to late round QBs in this draft that have a similar skill set to Drake Maye? With Milton getting traded there's now talk of NE possibly drafting a developmental QB at some point in the back end of the draft, someone that sort of plays like Maye where NE wouldn't need to change the offense much if the younger guy needs to be thrown in prematurely in the future.
I've reasearched literally every other position in this draft outside of QB (and special teams) and until recently really didn't see the need to spend time on QB but with Milton out the door NE drafting one is now a real possibility.
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Theres going to be some options late that have upside. Most of the QBs in this draft can run like Maye can so that part shouldnt be an issue, its just the passing which sounds funny to read lol. Milton really should be a late round pick but someones going to do something stupid. Howard should be a late round pick as well but because of his size someone might bite on him early but I dont trust his passing that much. His OSU WRs were just generally always so much better than the guys covering them,
DJ Uiagalelei will be there but he cant read defenses which is what got him chased out of Clemson. Cam Miller from North Dakota State is an interesting one but a little on the smaller side. Not sure how interested they would be after the Zappe thing but ND State has put multiple QBs into the NFL in recent years.
Rourke from Indiana has the mensurables but he was a 6th year senior and they had an extremely weak schedule. Injury issues there as well. I honestly cant figure out whats going to happen with Ewers . The injury concerns I think are scaring some teams off and I wouldnt be surprised if he went in the first round or the 3rd round.
If you want a really tough ultra competitive SOB Brady Cook from Mizzou. Guy left a game had to get an MRI on his ankle during the game and forced his way back into finishing that game when he got back from the hospital. He can run a bit and doesnt turn the ball over. He can throw too but Mizzous WRs werent great outside of Burden
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Good stuff. A lot of those names are new to me and will give me something new to learn about this draft. Riley Leonard seems to be the main name being thrown among fans here as a possible late round pick, I've seen him play once or twice but i couldn't really say how good or bad he is. Many don't seem to trust his passing abilities either.
The overreaction in the NFL world over the Joe Milton trade has been mind boggling. I would have been all for trying to develop him a bit more especially under Josh McDaniels but Milton wanted to try to gind a better situation for him. From what I saw from him in the short time that he was here, it seemed like his peak would have been a slightly better version of
how Cam Newton looked in that one season as a Patriot.
Cam Miller from North Dakota State is an interesting one but a little on the smaller side. Not sure how interested they would be after the Zappe thing but ND State has put multiple QBs into the NFL in recent years.
Could some of that success be due to how good some of ND State's recent offensive linemen have been? Between Cody Mauch and Grey Zabel, that must have been a great foundation for their OL.
I'd love to see Zabel end up in NE, Will Campbell & Ozzy Trapilo too. That would probably be my number one crazy draft wish. My other one would be to somehow pair Travis Hunter & Drake Maye for the next 10 years. Wishful thinking, i know lol.
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6th year senior? Delta house?
I should add I meant to say Milroe not Milton before for the draft thing. I mix them up a lot name wise theyre such similar players to me. Look awesome in practice, have some great moments and have games you wonder how theyre even on the field. I dont get the whole uproar over the Milton trade. If youre playing Madden on Xbox hes a great player, but hes not and NFL starter without improvement. I do think Milton is better than Milroe though but Milroe seems to be headed to being a first round pick like Richardson
For Miller, I am generally a huge skeptic of FCS players especially QBs but for a backup they have put a few of them in the league and even Carson Wentz. ND State is basically the Bama/Georgia of the FCS though theyve won something like 10 national championships since 2010. Funny enough South Dakota State was the one that gave them a little bit of a drought, somehow the Dakotas control the FCS lol. That success could definitely be that theyre just so much better but for a 6th or 7th round pick that probably isnt going to be very productive anyways could be worth a shot.
I kind of like Cook the best for the late round QB backup. He had an elite WR and very good RB but there was nothing over powering and he had to elevate guys. He also should have missed a bunch of games and just refused not to from his ankle. He ended up missing some time from a wrist injury against Bama which if I remember right he hit his hand on someones helmet throwing. He wanted to come back in but the score was the point where they just said no
I wouldnt use any pick on DJ or Riley. Shough the Louisville QB is the other one that looks the part at 6'5 but thats another one that was a 7th year senior and the ACC was bad this year that he got to play against
I think Hunter will be off the board when they draft in the first in which case take Campbell of MicMillan.
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I don't know which NFL podcast it was on (maybe PFF) but someone recently sort of blamed the Mizzou Qb for Luther Burden's down year compared to how well he played in the previous season. Not sure I'd believe that when Burden only played one less game yet his numbers were almost cut in half.
I dug into which QBs the Pats have met with so far while watching the C's game last night and the only three names I could find were:
Jordan McCloud - Texas State
Seth Morgan - UNH
Jake Willcox - Brown
Those second two might just be because they were pretty local and McCloud's height (6-0) may be an issue.
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Burden wasnt completely healthy last year. More importantly though Burden was the focus of the defenses this year. Noel was a good RB but no threat in the passing game and no where near the threat Schrader was the year before. Their second best WR last year was a 6th year senior that spent most of his time at Oklahoma and never really did anything. He benefited from the attention Burden was getting. Other than Cooks injuries I wouldnt blame him for making smart decisions and not trying to force the ball to someone.
Im guessing those second two were meetings about being a practice squad QB when they go undrafted. McCould has a chance of getting drafted late and got know for that JMU run the year before Texas State, but it will depend what happens to the others. If theyre digging down that deep in the search Will Rodgers would be another name
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Checking out some of Cook's highlights, his play does give off sort of a similar vibe as Drake Maye looked over this past season. He's slightly smaller but he looked like someone capable of makings plays with his arm & legs plus he'd get brownie points from this fanbase for winning a snow game at home against Arkansas.
I also liked what I saw from Burden too and he's been talked about frequently as someone who might be available at 38 but I think that it would have to be an either/or situation as far as drafting either one of the two. While I liked what I saw from Cook I'd probably go with Burden there, our fanbase would probably implode on itself if Maye has a bad game and the Pats had a Cook/Burden duo waiting in the wings lol.
A year ago there was talk about possibly doing something similar to that where they draft Maye at 3 and possibly grab his teammate WR Devontez Walker later on but iirc he went to the Ravens. His former TE Bryson Nesbit seems to be one getting mentioned alot heading into this draft possibly in the later rounds but who knows how serious it would be. A Maye/Hampton reunion would be fantastic but I just couldn't see a scenario where he makes sense for the Pats unless they moved back from 4. This seems to be a very deep draft for both TE & RB so that's two positions that they likely draft for.
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I think that both could be possible but would definitely go with Burden if hes still there in the second. Youre right that theres a good chance that Burden wont be there in the second round but if he is definitely take him and Cook will almost certainly be there later on. Bond from Texas just got arrested which elevates the stock of Burdon thinning our the WR group. I dont know if the charges are legit but that will scare some teams off and maybe give a chance of grabbing him later on if hes cleared. With Maye on the roster I wouldnt use a first or second round pick on a QB and think theres probably a pretty good chance of being able to get Cook in the 4th or 5th round.
That is an interesting point of how fans might react if Burdon and Cook are on the same roster but Maye has to be the guy unless he gets hurt.
For the RBs with how theyve been devalued by the league a Judkins or Henderson might still be there in the 3rd. Check out Ollie Gordon too. He was an absolute stud in 2023 and for whatever reason Oklahoma State fell off a cliff last year and really hurt his numbers. Im not sure how teams will react to that but if he was able to get into the draft last year he would have been a first or second rounder that could easily fall this year. Sampson from Tennesse seems to be getting under valued by the media as well.
Warren is probably the best TE that wont be an option, but Taylor from LSU and Helm from Texas one of those two will likely be a third round option too if not later on. Both big boys
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I'd de be happy with any of those RBs you named, Skattebo & Kaleb Johnson too. Sampson was one that NE actually used one of their visits on so he might be someone to keep an eye on.
With NE's history of finding good young receiving/3rd down type of backs there's been an emphasis here in seeing who could fill that type of role and my favorite has to be Bhayshul Tuten, the dude is fast and kind of reminds me of former Patriot Dion Lewis. LeQuint Allen, Brashard Smith & Woody Marks are a few other names that get mentioned frequently too.
I'd absoutely love to see Mason Taylor end up in NE, maybe even go TE over WR if he's available. He's not Gronk but he's only 20 and I think that he's going to get better as he gets older. Having that NFL pedigree is a huge plus in his favor too.
I don't see NE using a 1st rounder on Warren or Loveland, Arroyo might be a good alternative if Taylor is gone and while I would be happy if Helm,Fannin or Ferguson ended up in NE I'd probably prefer to draft other positions in their draft range.
One other TE that I really like is Jackson Hawes, not really for his pass catching abilities which I think could still get better but because he's a mauler in the run game. the Pats haven't had that type of TE on the roster for awhile a now. More than once I've heard his name being mentioned as the best all around run blocker in this draft,including offensive linemen.
There's been talk of the fullback position possibly making a return to NE's offense and Hawes blocking skills could fit there. Mitchell Evans & Robbie Outz are two others also mentioned as possibilities.
If Santa came in filling draft wishes, I'd have us landing Taylor, Tuten & Hawes. Maybe even a Skattebo if they decide to pass up on another WR. I'd rather just see them try to develop the four they just drafted (Polk,Baker,Boutte,Douglas) before continuing to add similar types into that WR room. Maybe a guy with good size much later in the draft like Dont'e Thornton, Isaac TeSlaa, Nick Nash or Pat Bryant although there might not be much difference between Mack Hollins and one of that group.
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Skattabo could definitely be a steal for someone late in the draft. Im not as sold on Johnson since Iowa basically had their offense designed around running the ball but he does have size.
One WR I think will be around late because of his size is Xavier Restrepo who is better than his size. Great route runner with speed and can definitely help teams if hes used right and not expected to be the number 1. Ayomanor from Stanford is worth a look too.
Id still take Buden over Taylor is both happen to be there in the second round. I get the felling Taylor will probably go to Miami in the 2nd. I think theres more of a gap between the top WRs and the rest than there is with the top TEs where you can get a productive one later on. I'm not really sure Boutte will mix any better with Vrabs than he did with Belli. Up to this point he generally doesnt mix well or try every play if hes not the number 1 but certainly has a bunch of talent.
Assuming they dont trade down I think the Christmas draft thats realistic would be Campbell or Hunter if he happens to be there, then a Buden Golden Ebuka or Higgins if they want size with who every is still in the second, third round with two picks grab a TE and one of the Edge guys as there are a ton of good ones in this draft, 4th grab one of the RBs or Cook and do the other for the 5th and then the 7ths are kind of throwaways just see whats left
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He was mocked quite a bit to NE for awhile , probably just because of their history of playing through slot wideouts, but once he ran his 40 at his pro day he's fallen as one of the favorites to land here. The new guy everyone wants is ISU's Jaylin Noel if Egbuka isn't an option. Noel definitely has that Edelman look to his game where he might be #1 guy from the slot, I doubt that Pop Douglas is viewed as a long term answer there.
Its going to be interesting to see how Vrabel & McDaniels build this offense around Maye. Brady's strength was getting the ball out lightning fast and having those quicker smaller speedy guys were always the best fit but Maye isn't Brady in that regard. He played well throwing to two TEs last season and had some success with Boutte down the field so it probably makes sense to find that big X guy. Ayomanor definitely fits the bill there. Maybe even double up on two big outside guys with someone like Dont'e Thornton on the other side who's 6-5, 200+ and ran a 4.3 40 time. Tre Harris is another big WR that I really like.
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