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$49k Hammer for a 1955 cent! Another incredible auction result for an extremely common coin, no CAC

renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

I’m not complaining. Love it when stuff like this happens. A few weeks ago this coin’s 1958 twin sold for $55k hammer. And let’s pray the underbidder never loses interest 😂

https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1728034/1955-Lincoln-Cent-PCGS-Proof-69-DCAM

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I can’t relate to these prices for very common coins in very high grade. The other problem is that coins like this are quite fragile. One spot, and your investment is dead for many collectors.

    Good point, other than it is already in an older (no barcode) PCGS slab and hasn't changed yet. Chances are the new owner suspects it isn't likely to start turning now.

    peacockcoins

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to throw shade here. It just looks to me like the photo could have used perhaps a little less 🤷🏻‍♂️?? Where’s the eye-watering frost?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @BillJones said:
    I can’t relate to these prices for very common coins in very high grade. The other problem is that coins like this are quite fragile. One spot, and your investment is dead for many collectors.

    Good point, other than it is already in an older (no barcode) PCGS slab and hasn't changed yet. Chances are the new owner suspects it isn't likely to start turning now.

    Even though it might have been good for 20+ years in the holder, improper storage can change that very quickly. NGC has now refused to guarantee copper coins in their holders after 10 years. I don’t like that, but it does show that storage conditions are a concern.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @braddick said:

    @BillJones said:
    I can’t relate to these prices for very common coins in very high grade. The other problem is that coins like this are quite fragile. One spot, and your investment is dead for many collectors.

    Good point, other than it is already in an older (no barcode) PCGS slab and hasn't changed yet. Chances are the new owner suspects it isn't likely to start turning now.

    Even though it might have been good for 20+ years in the holder,** improper storage can change that very quickly**. NGC has now refused to guarantee copper coins in their holders after 10 years. I don’t like that, but it does show that storage conditions are a concern.

    Here is optimistically believing anyone with 49K to spend on a somewhat modern proof Lincoln cent will know how to store this coin.

    peacockcoins

  • JohnFJohnF Posts: 312 ✭✭✭✭

    Dead in line with our numbers which were already at $50,000 (Greysheet) / $60,000 (CPG). Great job GreatCollections! The market for these top registry coins is showing good strength.

    John Feigenbaum
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,758 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass, that's way more then I care to spend on a coin 👎

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I were a low level billionaire, worth only 1 billion, I could buy one of those every day for the next 50 years. :)

    For some people, it's not much money - and it might be a special birth year coin!

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    I will never be able to comprehend other than ego, why anyone would pay ridiculous money for a coin in which over 100,000(!!) are estimated to exist in gem condition and better.

  • NicNic Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps the buyer is having fun with coins? All are welcome imho.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    If I were a low level billionaire, worth only 1 billion, I could buy one of those every day for the next 50 years. :)

    For some people, it's not much money - and it might be a special birth year coin!

    Sorry but waste is waste.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2025 12:48PM

    Someone with very deep pockets is having fun.

    Hard pass for me.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I paid somewhere in that neighborhood for an 1848 CAL. $2.50 in AU some years ago. Which coin is more interesting?

    Exactly. It would be a consideration for me, if it was a more appealing coin, such as a key date or classic rarity….Not something so plain and esoteric…

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:
    Someone with very deep pockets is having fun.

    Hard pass for me.

    Deep pockets for you and me.
    Shallow pockets for well-heeled collectors.

    peacockcoins

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to wonder why some members get so annoyed by what others buy, collect, or do with their money.

    A competent psychiatrist would have a field day here. 😂😂

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renomedphys said:
    I’m not complaining. Love it when stuff like this happens. A few weeks ago this coin’s 1958 twin sold for $55k hammer. And let’s pray the underbidder never loses interest 😂

    When I see something like this, I'm reminded of the guy who paid a fortune for a 1953 S MS 66 Full Bell Franklin Half, which was the finest known of it's date and mint at the time, only to have another one made a year or 18 months later. He wound up selling it for half of what he paid for it. I hope the auction houses involved with this coin sent him a Christmas card.

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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess good ole registry fever is still alive and well.

    WS

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  • Jcc1876Jcc1876 Posts: 10
    edited March 24, 2025 2:51PM

    I agree the price is insane, and probably not something I would purchase, even if I could spend that type of money and not worry about it. Then again, it is a 1955 Penny, in deep cameo, graded in PF-69. In many ways it's a one-of-a-kind coin, a historic artifact from a time when the Mint wasn't really capable of regularly making coins with that quality and cameo finish. Now the mint can spit out PF70-DCAM pennies all day, every day, but to paraphrase Doc Brown, "In 1955 they're a little hard to come by!"

    I'm much more skeptical regarding the high value of for example, a 1995 W Silver Eagle Proof, or the 2019 S Silver Eagle enhanced reverse, simply because the only difference between those coins and their (far less) expensive identical twins from the same year is the mintmark or lack thereof. To me, there's nothing particularly special about those coins in that everything other than the mintmark is identical to the Philadelphia 1995 Silver Eagle proofs, or the West Point Pride of Two Nations Silver Eagle proofs. At least with this penny, the entire coin is distinctive because of the DCAM and the high grade for its time.

    Now, if the complaint is that the coin is too modern, well, I have trouble seeing a coin minted 20 years before I was born as "modern" but that's of course a matter of perspective.

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It wasn't too long ago Kennedy gold commems were going for crazy money. One mans trash is another mans treasure.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • JW77JW77 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First of all @SanctionII I must say your coins are gorgeous. However, market value is not driven strictly by appearance or eye appeal, it's about competition for registry ranking and top pops along with other low pop high grades drive demand. High demand and low supply means money! Again, your coins are outstanding.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To follow up on my prior post, here is a photo of a 1959 PF67RDDCAM cent that I made in 2021. It has what I consider DCAM frost on the devices and mirrored fields.

    Here is a photo of a 1959 PF66RD cent that I made in 2023. I think it should have received at least a CAM designation (due to the impaired reverse fields).

    Your thoughts.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2025 10:12AM

    JW77.

    Your reply is spot on (thanks for the props for my coins, I do enjoy them).

    The competitive nature of humans is fascinating. Every day, across multiple areas of human endeavor it is on display (i.e. athletic competition, video games, poker, social media, politics, science, art, construction, photography, car racing, boat racing, sky diving, sports cards, coins, car collecting, wine making, fashion, etc.).

    In collectibles the concept that a given item can be "graded" (via experts who opine about its condition by assigning a numerical grade plus alphabetic enhancers and place the item in a sealed plastic holder) in return for payment of a grading fee is (in hindsight) simple and appealing. However the creators of this concept took things further when Registry Sets were created, implemented and marketed to the collecting public.

    Absolutely brilliant, as TPG grading coupled with Registry Set competition has allowed anyone (regardless of one's age, physical fitness, intellect, health, finances, etc.) to compete and strive to accomplish (who does not enjoy that?). The response of the collecting public has been and likely will continue to be beyond what the creators of the concepts envisioned.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    $49K? I would rather purchase a decent 1955 TBird. And I suspect after alittle negotiating, I might have enough left to buy a coin here or there.

    Yes. And you might find some loose change in the seats. :)

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $55,125 with the BP, a serious Lincoln cent collector for sure! :o

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back then the dies soaked in 95% alcohol and 5% nitric acid then the fields were polished leaving the devices frosty on the die. The problem was after a couple dozen or so strikes the frost would be gone so the OP coin with a DCAM designation is one of only a first few to come off that die. And then to be a PF69 makes that coin a conditional rarity. Possibly one of one.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d say a business strike MS69 would be worth the money, but the well preserved proof strike….

  • HarlequinHarlequin Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    After many hours spent viewing Stewart's collections I'm a little topped out on cents!

    But as the saying goes, "collect what you like", so if the buyer is happy with the purchase then it's all good!

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    harlequinnumismatic@gmail.com

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2025 11:21AM

    @Harlequin said:
    After many hours spent viewing Stewart's collections I'm a little topped out on cents!

    But as the saying goes, "collect what you like", so if the buyer is happy with the purchase then it's all good!

    True. But it helps to collect something more desirable, if/when it’s time to sell.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ambro51 said:
    I guarantee the buyer is not married

    ..................or not yet divorced?

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @braddick said:

    @BillJones said:
    I can’t relate to these prices for very common coins in very high grade. The other problem is that coins like this are quite fragile. One spot, and your investment is dead for many collectors.

    Good point, other than it is already in an older (no barcode) PCGS slab and hasn't changed yet. Chances are the new owner suspects it isn't likely to start turning now.

    Even though it might have been good for 20+ years in the holder, improper storage can change that very quickly. NGC has now refused to guarantee copper coins in their holders after 10 years. I don’t like that, but it does show that storage conditions are a concern.

    rumor has it jefferson nickles have been known to turn blue in a holder

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my reply of yesterday afternoon I asked:

    Does anyone think that the difference in quality, appearance and eye appeal between the 1955 PF69RDDCAM cent sold by Great Collections and the five 1955 proof cents I submitted supports the almost $49K hammer price of the 69DCAM over the
    market values my cents?

    No one has yet answered this question.

    Does anyone care to do so and start what may be an interesting discussion (about a coin's value in the market place)?

    For me, I have mid 20th century proof Registry Sets that mostly consist of coins I have submitted raw for grading. Upgrading my sets at this point in time mostly requires that I purchase slabbed coins that have already been graded. These upgrade coins are more expensive (than the cost of raw coins that are graded, receiving top pop grades); and they are easier to find and acquire than making them yourself. I have paid up for some slabbed coins to upgrade my Registry Sets and I can envision myself paying,.............. even more up ............... in the future (there is a desire in me to climb higher on the set rankings ladder :) ).

    I am interested in reading what other forum members have to say, ...................... so have a go at it B)

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the coins you picked for grading were not 69. The 69 was a 69. Keep searching.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    In my reply of yesterday afternoon I asked:

    Does anyone think that the difference in quality, appearance and eye appeal between the 1955 PF69RDDCAM cent sold by Great Collections and the five 1955 proof cents I submitted supports the almost $49K hammer price of the 69DCAM over the
    market values my cents?

    No one has yet answered this question.

    Does anyone care to do so and start what may be an interesting discussion (about a coin's value in the market place)?

    For me, I have mid 20th century proof Registry Sets that mostly consist of coins I have submitted raw for grading. Upgrading my sets at this point in time mostly requires that I purchase slabbed coins that have already been graded. These upgrade coins are more expensive (than the cost of raw coins that are graded, receiving top pop grades); and they are easier to find and acquire than making them yourself. I have paid up for some slabbed coins to upgrade my Registry Sets and I can envision myself paying,.............. even more up ............... in the future (there is a desire in me to climb higher on the set rankings ladder :) ).

    I am interested in reading what other forum members have to say, ...................... so have a go at it B)

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  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To answer your question @SanctionII , I don't think the difference in quality supports the almost $49K hammer price of the 69DCAM over the market values of your cents. However, at least a couple of buyers in the market disagree.

    I think you already did a good job of answering this yourself in your March 24, 2025 7:56PM post referencing Registry Set competition.

    If something like the Registry Set competition had never occurred to anyone, I don't think the prices would have anywhere near the gap in price vs quality that exists today. Just as it was much smaller before Registry Sets existed or when the same coins are raw.

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  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I paid somewhere in that neighborhood for an 1848 CAL. $2.50 in AU some years ago. Which coin is more interesting?

    >
    Exactly!
    To think of all the truly rare gold coins that could be had in at least AU for 50k is mind boggling!
    >
    I mean even some super nice Early Eagles.
    No way could I justify a ‘wheat cent’ to these types of coins.
    Oh well, their money, their choice!😉

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone is doing a happy dance, consignor and also the underbidder if he hasn’t realized it yet.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    In my reply of yesterday afternoon I asked:

    Does anyone think that the difference in quality, appearance and eye appeal between the 1955 PF69RDDCAM cent sold by Great Collections and the five 1955 proof cents I submitted supports the almost $49K hammer price of the 69DCAM over the
    market values my cents?

    No one has yet answered this question.

    I’ve made my position clear. However I should apologize to the “to each his own” camp. It’s none of my business what the rich do with their money or how hobbyists choose to enjoy their hobby.

    None.

    In my defense it’s in my nature to comment when I see foolish and wasteful behavior, just one of my many faults.

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2025 10:02PM

    @BillJones said:
    Even though it might have been good for 20+ years in the holder, improper storage can change that very quickly. >NGC has now refused to guarantee copper coins in their holders after 10 years. I don’t like that, but it does show >that storage conditions are a concern.

    I mean, unless you have your coins next to an open window and you reside near a toxic waste dump or an exotic restaurant :D ....what can possibly cause coins to change via atmospherics ?

    I don't know anybody who stores their coins in a very cold or warm place....in direct sunlight...or anywhere near where anything other than breathable Oxygen/Nitrogen is common. :)

    This almost seems random. I had a beautiful MSD PL coin turn and develop an ugly black smudge -- same storage container has dozens of other silver coins, and NONE of them (MSDs, Peace, Moderns) have done anything appearance-wise.

    You would think that if a coin hasn't turned after 10 or 20 or 30 or 125 years....it should be safe, esp. now that it's in a holder the last 35 years or so.

    Evidently, not so. :'(

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldFinger1969 said:

    @BillJones said:
    Even though it might have been good for 20+ years in the holder, improper storage can change that very quickly. >NGC has now refused to guarantee copper coins in their holders after 10 years. I don’t like that, but it does show >that storage conditions are a concern.

    I mean, unless you have your coins next to an open window and you reside near a toxic waste dump or an exotic restaurant :D ....what can possibly cause coins to change via atmospherics ?

    I don't know anybody who stores their coins in a very cold or warm place....in direct sunlight...or anywhere near where anything other than breathable Oxygen/Nitrogen is common. :)

    This almost seems random. I had a beautiful MSD PL coin turn and develop an ugly black smudge -- same storage container has dozens of other silver coins, and NONE of them (MSDs, Peace, Moderns) have done anything appearance-wise.

    You would think that if a coin hasn't turned after 10 or 20 or 30 or 125 years....it should be safe, esp. now that it's in a holder the last 35 years or so.

    Evidently, not so. :'(

    The museums might. The DeWitt collection of political tokens showed environmental damage from storage that was something less than environmentally controlled.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 258 ✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @ambro51 said:
    I guarantee the buyer is not married

    I strongly disagree.
    The strength and love of a spouse is a strong motivator for achievment and success.
    What I would believe is the buyer is probably not divorced.

    He will be and she will get the Registry Set.

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