The grades on this type are all over the place. I have one in an MS-62 holder which could be in an MS-64 holder. I have another one that is in an MS-64, CAC holder which is some ways is not as nice as the one in the MS-62 holder.
The problem is these coins were weakly struck and some graders don't know how to handle that. The center of the obverse on this piece is weakly struck. Yet, the surfaces are super clean, especially for a gold coin.
My guess is MS-64. It could go as high as MS-66.
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Probably just the lighting, but the color looks muted. Still, nice coin.
These coins come frosty most of the time. This is graded MS-62.
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@jom said:
The luster does look a bit muted. 65 maybe?
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I've seen coins with almost no marks are on them get hammered to a lower grade because of subdued luster. This is graded MS-64.
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@jom said:
The luster does look a bit muted. 65 maybe?
jom
I've seen coins with almost no marks are on them get hammered to a lower grade because of subdued luster. This is graded MS-64.
What I don't get is the MS62 you got for your 1907. Unless they thought they spotted some rub on, maybe, the eagle's wing. It doesn't seem to be "lack luster".
MS63 CAC. These all come looking nice like this lol
Edit: looking at it again I don't like it stickered at 63. So I'll call it a 63 no CAC. @PeakRarities had a 63 that didn't sticker and that coin was more lustrous/sharp than this one. Attached are some pics:
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@Davidk7 said:
MS63 CAC. These all come looking nice like this lol
Edit: looking at it again I don't like it stickered at 63. So I'll call it a 63 no CAC. @PeakRarities had a 63 that didn't sticker and that coin was more lustrous/sharp than this one. Attached are some pics:
How do you feel about the gash on the neck on that one?
@Davidk7 said:
MS63 CAC. These all come looking nice like this lol
Edit: looking at it again I don't like it stickered at 63. So I'll call it a 63 no CAC. @PeakRarities had a 63 that didn't sticker and that coin was more lustrous/sharp than this one. Attached are some pics:
How do you feel about the gash on the neck on that one?
The gash unfortunately is probably what prohibited a CAC sticker.
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I have a 63 as well and for the life of me can't figure out why it is not a 66. Good value though since most 63's, like Morgans, look like they were kicked through a parking lot.
This is graded NGC MS-66, no CAC. It is a different type and a "remake" of the design with sharper details.
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The grades on this type are all over the place. I have one in an MS-62 holder which could be in an MS-64 holder. I have another one that is in an MS-64, CAC holder which is some ways is not as nice as the one in the MS-62 holder.
The problem is these coins were weakly struck and some graders don't know how to handle that. The center of the obverse on this piece is weakly struck. Yet, the surfaces are super clean, especially for a gold coin.
My guess is MS-64. It could go as high as MS-66.
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I'll guess MS65 give or take a point or two.
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I've seen 66s with more hits and distractions. My crazy guess is MS67 no CAC
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Probably just the lighting, but the color looks muted. Still, nice coin.
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These coins come frosty most of the time. This is graded MS-62.
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The luster does look a bit muted. 65 maybe?
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I would give it MS67
Superb gem.
I've seen coins with almost no marks are on them get hammered to a lower grade because of subdued luster. This is graded MS-64.
I already know so just here to say what a gorgeous coin! Well done Eldo!
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What I don't get is the MS62 you got for your 1907. Unless they thought they spotted some rub on, maybe, the eagle's wing. It doesn't seem to be "lack luster".
jom
MS63 CAC. These all come looking nice like this lol
Edit: looking at it again I don't like it stickered at 63. So I'll call it a 63 no CAC. @PeakRarities had a 63 that didn't sticker and that coin was more lustrous/sharp than this one. Attached are some pics:
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My guess is MS64. Amazingly free of contact marks but I'm not seeing the luster in those images and the color looks a little muted also.
How do you feel about the gash on the neck on that one?
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The gash unfortunately is probably what prohibited a CAC sticker.
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MS64, CNGRTS!
Strike in the feathers is too weak for me, I’m at MS63
I have a 63 as well and for the life of me can't figure out why it is not a 66. Good value though since most 63's, like Morgans, look like they were kicked through a parking lot.
Some good guesses. Here she is:
Color looks much nicer in this pic. Nice coin.
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This one is graded MS-64, CAC.
This is graded NGC MS-66, no CAC. It is a different type and a "remake" of the design with sharper details.
@BillJones Thanks for the nice shots Bill! You know these coins well. Appreciate the input.
Glad I was wrong. The slab pics showed the luster a bit better than the first set of pics so I like it at that grade.
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Beautiful coin Eldo!
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