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Cleaned 1798/7 dime

logger7logger7 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 14, 2025 3:15PM in U.S. Coin Forum


Not great pics; at first I thought this was a fake, the owner said that a local early coin expert saw it as real, he was asking $1700.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What’s the purpose of this thread?

    I certainly agree that the pics aren’t great! And from what I can see, the coin looks genuine.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the limited photos the asking price seems fair. That opinion excludes unseen problems.
    How cool if it was a thirteen star reverse?

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2025 3:56PM

    Hard to tell from those photos, wouldn’t want to guarantee the authenticity or try to grade.
    I can see that it is the 16 star variety and it looks like the stem of the 7 is showing below the 8.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin should be stored in a kraft paper envelope in a warm place to give it some natural toning. It would still be cleaned but at least the appearance would be improved.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wasn't sure the coin was real, first look it looked fake to me, "chromed over", which was probably the cleaning. I'll try to update with pics.; am thinking VF details.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrible photos, even worse than I could take.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The point of focus is below the coin. Are these seller photos? Exceptionally bad photos for a potentially valuable coin.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m guessing there were circumstances preventing the OP from getting better photos at the time. I still appreciate the effort to post a genuinely interesting (to me anyway) coin that’s rarely seen on the forum.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hope it's better then expected to tell ya the truth, jmo

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd love to see good images of it outside of the 2x2.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My apology on the pics.; I sent the young dealer a request for a picture yesterday but go no response. He said something about not checking his emails. If he still has it next week I may make him an offer. For imagination purposes, my description would be a "chrome" like overall look due to the cleaning.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I posted elsewhere, I cane across a very deceptive counterfeit of a 1798 dime many years ago. Really bad pictures like this tell you nothing. I would not take risk based on pictures like this alone.

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 623 ✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    My apology on the pics.; I sent the young dealer a request for a picture yesterday but go no response. He said something about not checking his emails. If he still has it next week I may make him an offer. For imagination purposes, my description would be a "chrome" like overall look due to the cleaning.

    Crome look implies polishing to me and I don't see it in this view. All I see is normal gray and it may be VF. Any long-time member wish to comment on the grade? @jmlanzaf

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are some better pictures of the dime:


  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2025 4:12PM


    Here's an MS-64 from PCGS CoinFacts for comparison.

    It looks like a fairly close match, although I'm not an expert in authenticating these.

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your pics aren't high resolution but it looks genuine to me. :)

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine, VF details, thanks for getting new photos.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From these pics, it looks genuine to me. Let us know how it goes.
    Jim


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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Here are some better pictures of the dime:


    IMHO I would consider it genuine, but I'm no expert. The overdate looks legit when compared to the MS-64 example.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    She's had a rough life, 227 years!, and been cleaned but still looks good to me. Could bring close to $2k once authenticated.

    Check out this NGC VF20 (w/plenty of patina remaining) that sold on Heritage 16 months ago. ha.com/1798-97-10c-16-stars-reverse-vf20-ngc

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