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1924 Standing Liberty Quarter...Genuine??

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In your opinion, is this 1924 Standing Liberty Quarter real? I have my doubts about it. There is a die crack on the date, I'm not big on the color, and the little gouge behind her shoulder. I'm just on the fence about it. What do you think?





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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At first it looks like Ms. Liberty is smiling, but maybe she just got punched in the nose.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine. Perhaps slight porosity.

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  • BANNEDBANNED Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine, environmental damage.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    jt has real strange wear patterns for authentic coin

    full head down to XF on breast armor, leg and eagle
    I wouldn't want it

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Appears to be a very late die state with heavy flow lines and the crack you mentioned. I believe it is genuine.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks grainy to me with chunks of metal in the fields. I don’t like it. I know coins from this era come frosty, but after some time in circulation, it should most worn and smoothed off.

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also have a 1924 SLQ I was on the fence about. I just took another look at it and it doesn't pass the sound test for silver. Also, the edge seems a bit thicker and reed spacing is smaller than a normal example in similar condition.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My vote is counterfeit, too grainy and just looks off.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there perhaps something ON the surface of the coin? Maybe old lacquer? This was towards the end of the era when some collectors lacquered their coins to “protect” them, and the lacquer often did not age well.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 11, 2025 8:39PM

    I vote NOT Genuine. The details, the letters and the numbers look inconsistent when compared to a known example. Pay particular attention to the E and the R in ‘Liberty’ across the top of the obverse.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I am certainly not positive, it looks authentic.

    The bulk of the closeup images seem to have been taken in a harsh light, and don't help in analyzing the coin much (IMO), where the first three images are decent and seem sufficient.

    Obviously it needs to be silver, but I don't see anything that says counterfeit.


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The “little gouge” behind the shoulder is a clash mark from the end of the eagle’s tail feathers. You can see a bit of the beak sticking out of the shield. There are other typical SLQ clash marks here and there.

    If you want to test my lacquer theory, get a small glass jar with a tight lid and soak it in acetone for 4-5 days and then gently poke at it with a Q-tip. Rinse with hot water.

    Be careful. Acetone is HIGHLY flammable.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The drapery folds across the midsection look pretty blocky and not very well defined. Interesting coin, but I am leery of it.

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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The lettering, surfaces, and wear patterns look off to me. If there’s that much wear on the front of her leg, and the date stands as high as that, why is there no wear evidence on the date? Plus, IGWT looks thick to me and MacNeil’s initial appears misshaped. And what’s going on with the 3 sprigs on her head? I vote not legit.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the image of the obverse:

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that the piece is genuine with either environmental damage or possibly some surface contamination, perhaps lacquer. Or maybe glue. I still recommend an acetone rinse. Like chicken soup, it couldn't hurt!

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not a rare date or in high grade, I vote genuine.

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote NOT Genuine. It just looks "off".

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    It’s not a rare date or in high grade, I vote genuine.

    I think it's safe to rule out a modern Chinese counterfeit, as the coin exhibits characteristics of a genuine late die state coin. The big question is whether it's genuine or a contemporary counterfeit made with cast dies. There is a fairly well known 1924-S contemporary CF SLQ, and apparently they were made to pass as silver, so it stands to reason that there was more than just one operation. (although this example, if indeed counterfeit, was considerably better executed)

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