Guess the grade of this scarcer 1914-D Saint.

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oreville
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edited February 12, 2025 1:30PM in U.S. Coin Forum

The 1914-D Saints do not come as lustrous as the ultra common 1924 Saint.

Note that this coin was graded by NGC and stickered by CAC.

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  • ajaan
    ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS62


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  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63

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  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

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  • Davidk7
    Davidk7 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • Texas77
    Texas77 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62+

  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64. The surfaces are super clean and the strike is good. Yeah the luster, and thus eye appeal, is a subdued but 64 seems fair. A couple tiny ticks at the bottom of rays on the reverse but they're otherwise pristine.

  • TPRC
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    @ajaan said:
    MS62

    I agree with ajaan!

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  • CopperLad
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    Her face looks great.
    MS65.
    Not a gold guy. Probably shows in my grading.

  • Rarity
    Rarity Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭✭
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    64+

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,861 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Small pictures, not too many distractions. Probably MS64.

  • oreville
    oreville Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NGC graded this Saint MS-62 and was stickered by CAC.

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  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks nice for a 62 based on the photos

  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Deserves a gold sticker. Got to be one of the nicest 62s ever graded.

  • oreville
    oreville Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @VanHalen said:
    Deserves a gold sticker. Got to be one of the nicest 62s ever graded.

    JA is tough on these.

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  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice looking 62.

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  • oreville
    oreville Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @VanHalen said:
    Deserves a gold sticker. Got to be one of the nicest 62s ever graded.

    JA likes it a a C level MS-63 not enough for a gold sticker on a 62 grade or a green sticker on a 63 grade.

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  • VanHalen
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    @oreville said:

    @VanHalen said:
    Deserves a gold sticker. Got to be one of the nicest 62s ever graded.

    JA likes it a a C level MS-63 not enough for a gold sticker on a 62 grade or a green sticker on a 63 grade.

    If it looks like the pics it's a 65 with strong luster. That's a crazy deduction to 62. Sure the eye appeal drops with the luster but not THAT much. It's an awesome coin for a truly MS piece with minimal contact marks and a good strike.

  • scubafuel
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    The slab picture shows many small marks over Liberty that the original picture obscures (due to lower resolution)

  • Torey
    Torey Posts: 410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @scubafuel said:
    The slab picture shows many small marks over Liberty that the original picture obscures (due to lower resolution)

    I agree, I think it's correctly graded at 62.

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  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @scubafuel said:
    The slab picture shows many small marks over Liberty that the original picture obscures (due to lower resolution)

    I agree with that, very small. At 20X like the image above they're quite noticeable.

  • oreville
    oreville Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @VanHalen said:

    @scubafuel said:
    The slab picture shows many small marks over Liberty that the original picture obscures (due to lower resolution)

    I agree with that, very small. At 20X like the image above they're quite noticeable.

    It is not the numerous small bag marks in the devices that drives the grade below MS-62 or MS-63 but bagmarks in the open fields. Agreed that this 1914-D Saint is very clean and nearly devoid of bagmarks and scrapes in the open fields.

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  • BillJones
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    Looking at the photo by Great Collections, I would have said MS-64. Looking at your close-up photo, I would say the MS-62 is the right call.

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  • oreville
    oreville Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BillJones said:
    Looking at the photo by Great Collections, I would have said MS-64. Looking at your close-up photo, I would say the MS-62 is the right call.

    This is why I like posting threads on viewing photos of coins. The difference in the photos can throw off even the best graders among us even when not overtly trying to deceive. Doing such threads and comparing our reactions to various photos can only sharpen our ability to partially guess at the grades of the photos we view. Still not as accurate as viewing in person.

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