GTG: NGC slabbed 1921 Peace Dollar (Grade revealed)

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  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS 63

  • JimW
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    58 scratched

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  • hummingbird_coins
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    MS62

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  • bsshog40
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    Seeings how I can't grade peace dollars very well and am not familiar if weak strikes are common, I have to guess maybe AU50.

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    55

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  • hummingbird_coins
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    @bsshog40 said:
    Seeings how I can't grade peace dollars very well and am not familiar if weak strikes are common, I have to guess maybe AU50.

    Weak strikes are almost unavoidable for the 1921, since it was in such high relief.

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  • anablep
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    AU58

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  • privatecoin
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    Au63

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  • DisneyFan
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    AU58 Clean coin; but, worn feathers on reverse,

  • bigmountainlion
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    Au58

  • Crypto
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    edited July 10, 2024 9:01PM
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    UNC details altered surfaces

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  • gumby1234
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    Ill go with 65. Its a pretty clean coin with a few small marks on it. The strike is typical. @DisneyFan what you perceive as worn feathers is part of the 1921 Peace dollar problem. They relief was too high for them to strike up fully so the hair on the central portion of the obverse and the feathers on the central portion of the reverse are often pretty flat.

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  • Inditonka
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    I'll guess MS62

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  • Jacques_Loungecoque
    Jacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS Details

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  • Morgan13
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    Very difficult coin to grade for sure. I'm going to guess MS64

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  • cameonut2011
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    64

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it overall, but I'm not sure how to reconcile the marks across the cheek. It's definitely an Unc, but it is Unc details due to the marks or is it MS63/4? The fields are very clean.

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  • Pghpete
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    MS-64

  • DRUNNER
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    Perhaps the opinion of our @thefinn (current moderator of the Doily Census) should render an opinion. He is quite a student of the intricacies of the 1921 Peace . . . and could give some cool insight.

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  • Jacques_Loungecoque
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    @bsshog40 said:
    Seeings how I can't grade peace dollars very well and am not familiar if weak strikes are common, I have to guess maybe AU50.

    Peace dollars and Washington quarters, particularly the silver issues, are a nightmare. I’ve seen results that defy logic, in both directions, from both our host and ATS.

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • john_nyc1
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    63 due to slices on Liberty’s face and neck.

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  • air4mdc
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    Tough one for me…Details??

  • noenhancedproof
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    63+, nice toning on the obverse and the “scratches” look like toning from here

  • marcmoish
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    58

  • CRHer700
    CRHer700 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64 or cleaned.

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  • vplite99
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    63

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  • Pacecar
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    MS65

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  • SurfinxHI
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    QUestionable color. Ms det

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  • blitzdude
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    63 RGDS!

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  • erwindoc
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    MS Details, cleaned

  • logger7
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    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

  • MFeld
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    @logger7 said:
    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

    A coin won’t receive a details grade just because the luster’s lacking. But I wouldn’t be surprised by a details grade due to questionable color or cleaning.

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  • Cougar1978
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    edited July 13, 2024 6:28AM
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    AU 50. Low end piece.

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  • logger7
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    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:
    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

    A coin won’t receive a details grade just because the luster’s lacking. But I wouldn’t be surprised by a details grade due to questionable color or cleaning.

    While true, they will sometimes straight grade coins without much luster, if the coin is AU or Unc. I've found NGC more likely to give it a details grade if the luster is lacking.

  • MFeld
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    @logger7 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:
    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

    A coin won’t receive a details grade just because the luster’s lacking. But I wouldn’t be surprised by a details grade due to questionable color or cleaning.

    While true, they will sometimes straight grade coins without much luster, if the coin is AU or Unc. I've found NGC more likely to give it a details grade if the luster is lacking.

    There must be another issue responsible for the lack of luster and whatever it is, would be the reason for the details grade.

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  • logger7
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    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:
    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

    A coin won’t receive a details grade just because the luster’s lacking. But I wouldn’t be surprised by a details grade due to questionable color or cleaning.

    While true, they will sometimes straight grade coins without much luster, if the coin is AU or Unc. I've found NGC more likely to give it a details grade if the luster is lacking.

    There must be another issue responsible for the lack of luster and whatever it is, would be the reason for the details grade.

    Though theoretically true, would not the lack of luster in an AU or Unc. coin indicate that the coin was mishandled post mint usually? Mr. Swiatek once told me that even an XF coin should usually have luster, albeit subdued, or partial in hidden parts of the coin from handling.

  • MFeld
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    @logger7 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @logger7 said:
    I'm also thinking Unc. details, just because the luster seems lacking.

    A coin won’t receive a details grade just because the luster’s lacking. But I wouldn’t be surprised by a details grade due to questionable color or cleaning.

    While true, they will sometimes straight grade coins without much luster, if the coin is AU or Unc. I've found NGC more likely to give it a details grade if the luster is lacking.

    There must be another issue responsible for the lack of luster and whatever it is, would be the reason for the details grade.

    Though theoretically true, would not the lack of luster in an AU or Unc. coin indicate that the coin was mishandled post mint usually? Mr. Swiatek once told me that even an XF coin should usually have luster, albeit subdued, or partial in hidden parts of the coin from handling.

    Even on an AU or Unc. coin, subdued luster isn’t necessarily the result of another issue that would result in a details grade.
    I’ve seen a lot of MS65 and better classic type coins with subpar luster.

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  • lermish
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    Quite late on the answer so I guess I'll take advantage with a swing.

    Unc Cleaned

    (AU Environmental Damage if it were PCGS)

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  • DelawareDoons
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    64.

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  • CRHer700
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    AU 50. Low end piece.

    How do you see this as an AU50? 58 at least if it straight grades.

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  • johnhenry9009
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    Here she is,

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  • MFeld
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    @CRHer700 said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    AU 50. Low end piece.

    How do you see this as an AU50? 58 at least if it straight grades.

    I can answer that for you - clearly, he’s not familiar enough with 1921 Peace dollars to be able to make an informed guess.

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  • logger7
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    Thanks for sharing; probably still a $300-$350 coin, maybe there is a variety on this?

  • DelawareDoons
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    @johnhenry9009 said:
    Here she is,

    I'd try it again. I can see why they went details, but I know they've let slide marks like that go before.

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  • johnhenry9009
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    @logger7 said:
    Thanks for sharing; probably still a $300-$350 coin, maybe there is a variety on this?

    I paid around $450 and she's a Vam-1C

    @MFeld said:

    @johnhenry9009 said:
    Here she is,

    Didn’t you originally say you were going to reveal the grade at 12:00 AM? If so, you were several hours late.😉

    I swear I put 12PM, you gotta believe me. 😅

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  • DisneyFan
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    @Cougar1978 said:
    AU 50. Low end piece.

    Spoken like a true " :) dealer."

  • DisneyFan
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    @johnhenry9009 said:
    Here she is,

    Where is the obverse damage? Just asking.

  • johnhenry9009
    johnhenry9009 Posts: 334 ✭✭✭✭
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    @DisneyFan
    I think it was details because of the parallel lines on the cheek which i think is from it being in an album (Like Dansco) with aplastic slides.

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  • DelawareDoons
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    @johnhenry9009 said:
    @DisneyFan
    I think it was details because of the parallel lines on the cheek which i think is from it being in an album (Like Dansco) with aplastic slides.

    That's what I see too, but I have seen them simply net grade for this too many times to leave it in a details holder. Coin should be at least a 62 if it doesn't have any other issues.

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