[GTG] 1858 Flying Eagle Cent *REVEALED*

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P0CKETCHANGE
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edited July 2, 2024 11:42AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I recently acquired this coin. Care to guess the PCGS grade? I'll reveal in ~24 hours. (edit: grade revealed in comment)

Any and all comments on the coin are also welcome, except from Cougar.


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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not a cougar here so I'll go with a 66 maybe a 65, just a guess here

  • hummingbird_coins
    hummingbird_coins Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58BN

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  • Jacques_Loungecoque
    Jacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    61

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62 does seem correct to me too.

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    61

  • DMWJR
    DMWJR Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

    Doug
  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

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  • BustHalfBrian
    BustHalfBrian Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭✭
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    MS62

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • rodepetdinosaur
    rodepetdinosaur Posts: 100 ✭✭✭
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    63

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In July 2024. It's MS 65

  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • Copperindian
    Copperindian Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

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  • JonBrand83
    JonBrand83 Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63+

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  • Shurke
    Shurke Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63.

  • jughead1893
    jughead1893 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

  • grote15
    grote15 Posts: 30,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63



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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a gem to me, some chatter and tics that are not enough to knock it down much in grade.

  • Kliao
    Kliao Posts: 5,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • CRHer700
    CRHer700 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64, I'm agreeing with @rnkmyer1 .

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Galton average is 63.07 so far.

  • jclovescoins
    jclovescoins Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    couldn't decide between 58 or 62....will go 62

  • Mr_Spud
    Mr_Spud Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58+

    Mr_Spud

  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62

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  • Sven27
    Sven27 Posts: 11 ✭
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    58

  • CommemDude
    CommemDude Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58+.....just enough stray hairlines on the obverse to suggest it might have circulated very briefly

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  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    GRADE REVEALED IN IMAGE BELOW

    Distribution of guesses:



    My iPhone slab shots:



    Close-ups from Rick Snow's website:

    Kudos to @hummingbird_coins @Mr_Spud @Sven27 @CommemDude

  • Jacques_Loungecoque
    Jacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2024 1:43PM
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    Interesting and I’m not really surprised.
    I could see the light rub, but I thought for sure given it was a pretty clean overall coin it’d net out at 61, maybe 62. Now that I see these other photos a lot more hits are apparent. Still think it’s a nice coin.

    @P0CKETCHANGE - are you happy with it and what you paid for it? If so, that’s all that matters in the end my brother!

    @RobertScotLover said:
    If I saw the last set of photos first I would have guessed au58ish, prior to that from viewing the TV which are a oil painting of optimism I would guessed 63ish. Another great thread proving one cannot accurately grade from a photo

    100%. I used to view TVs as the best, most ideal image of a coin. Nowadays I don’t know what to make of them and TVs tend to lead to more questions than answers. 😔

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  • renomedphys
    renomedphys Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin, looks 63

  • hummingbird_coins
    hummingbird_coins Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cool machine doubling too.

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  • MapsOnFire
    MapsOnFire Posts: 236 ✭✭✭
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    Less than uncirculated.

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, I got the present date correct

  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Choice Uncirculated, BN.

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    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MapsOnFire said:
    Less than uncirculated.

    You see wear? I don't. Where on the coin do you see wear from circulation?

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
    -Albert Einstein-

    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • hummingbird_coins
    hummingbird_coins Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @mr1931S said:

    @MapsOnFire said:
    Less than uncirculated.

    You see wear? I don't. Where on the coin do you see wear from circulation?

    A couple places, but this is the most obvious:

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  • CRHer700
    CRHer700 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @mr1931S said:

    @MapsOnFire said:
    Less than uncirculated.

    You see wear? I don't. Where on the coin do you see wear from circulation?

    Eagle's eyebrow. I had thought it to be toning in the first picture. It is really a high end coin with potential for a MS grade.

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  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wish all my slabbed coins were graded PCGS AU58.

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
    -Albert Einstein-

    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • Elcontador
    Elcontador Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The TV highlights the slight wear on the eagle's breast, which was not so clear in the first pic.

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  • MFeld
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    @mr1931S said:
    Choice Uncirculated, BN.

    Flying Eagle cents don’t receive color designations. Neither do 1859-1864 Copper Nickel cents.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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