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Guess the Grade $20.00 Saint -----Grade Revealed-----

LuxorLuxor Posts: 584 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 30, 2024 7:47PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    jmbjmb Posts: 615 ✭✭✭

    66

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+ but since it is in an older holder choice gem 65

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 cac in that holder, good shot at 6 if regraded.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66 Very nice coin! B)

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess 65 also.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m thinking 66

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    vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-66 CAC
    Nice

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66+
    Love your photography!

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow 65+ CNGRTS!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66, but the exceptional eye appeal and surfaces, except for the sun, could have earned it 67.

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels :D

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels :D

    Lets all just hope that it met our expectations :o

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2024 7:21PM

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels :D

    I’ll guess MS68+

    😉😉

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66.

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    66+
    Love your photography!

    x2. Gorgeous!

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    LuxorLuxor Posts: 584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for guessing.....here goes.

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    HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Darn, I thought that it was a 64 but everyone was shooting the moon, I was embarrassed to come with a lowly 64!😂

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2024 7:53PM

    My gut was thinking 64 with some of the high points and marks in the left field in the shadows. But the luster looked so good.

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That will 5 today.

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    HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    My gut was thinking 64 with some of the high points and marks in the left field in the shadows. But the luster looked so good.

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    Exactly! I couldn’t take my eyes off that left field. But man, talk about killer luster!👍

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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great photography!

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Darn nice 64.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back to grading school for me, that looks way better than a 64

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I missed the fantastic gtg, but here is my take. Denver Coin takes photos similar to the op's, and they make their coins look a lot better than they actual are. The op's photos are phenomenal, or they make the coin look phenomenal and that is why I believe the subject coin look like a ms65 gem ms68 all day long. I guess the adage, one cannot grade accurately from photos take precedence. Anyways, if the coin really and truly looks like the photo then I am very jealous

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    HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    Back to grading school for me, that looks way better than a 64

    When I first glanced, I too thought 66. Then, there’s something going on in the shadow of the left field and also between one of the rays above the ‘9.’ Now I don’t know much about Saints, but I thought it could be a potential issue.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66+
    Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

    That will 5 today.

    That's a 5 everyday!
    Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    66+
    Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

    That will 5 today.

    That's a 5 everyday!
    Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

    Lots of upgrades in old blue holders these days.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @braddick said:
    66+
    Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

    That will 5 today.

    That's a 5 everyday!
    Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

    Lots of upgrades in old blue holders these days.

    That would be nice, I have lots of old blue holders :)

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen some pretty fugly 64 Saints.

    That isn't one of them.

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    LuxorLuxor Posts: 584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The above pics are not mine, they're from GC. Here's the other from their website:

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a nice one.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    That will 5 today.

    But it won’t sticker as a 4 today?

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very Lustrous example of the 1927 Saint for sure!

    It's all about what the people want...

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    That will 5 today.

    But it won’t sticker as a 4 today?

    CAC is TOUGH on gold.

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I grade it just about 2 grand ....plus or minus a couple hundred , depending on which side of the counter I'm working.

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

    Now, on my work pc I can enlarge and see the deep hits her crotch area otherwise 65/66 all day.

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2024 8:14AM

    @Coinscratch said:

    @DeplorableDan said:
    If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

    Now, on my work pc I can enlarge and see the deep hits her crotch area otherwise 65/66 all day.

    Those hits are disguised well, and wouldn’t hold it back from 65 imo. I don’t even think they would hold it back from 66 if there were no other deep hits like the one in the left field.

    Here’s a MS67 I recently sold, and it has one of those deeper pock marks in a similar location.

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    GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

    By shadows, you mean multiple bagmarks, DD ?

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    GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2024 9:48AM

    I guessed MS-65 with a good chance it was MS-66.

    I've seen photos of coins where the lighting angle changes and you look at "before-and-after" shots and the coin looks TOTALLY different, like a 6-8 grade drop -- or more !! :o I couldn't believe my own eyes one time, it was that huge a change.

    Deliberate or accidental, lighting angles alone can totally change how a coin looks from the actual naked eye visual (I guess some of you photog experts already know that). First time I saw it, again, I really was stunned.

    I would guess TrueViews and the HA/GC pictures are done in such a way that there is no visual distortion, huh ?

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just meant you can usually find the blemishes hiding in the shadows. Phil does a great of this when warranted. But by the same token sometimes these hits are highlighted especially on moderns or if they just can't hide.

    Do you have another 67 ex. for sale? @DeplorableDan

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