Guess the Grade $20.00 Saint -----Grade Revealed-----

Luxor · January 30, 2024 4:12PM

World67 · January 30, 2024 4:14PM

65

jmb · January 30, 2024 4:14PM

66

Crypto · January 30, 2024 4:16PM

65+ but since it is in an older holder choice gem 65

PeakRarities · January 30, 2024 4:23PM

65 cac in that holder, good shot at 6 if regraded.

PerryHall · January 30, 2024 4:32PM

MS66 Very nice coin!

coinbuf · January 30, 2024 4:38PM

I would guess 65 also.

jfriedm56 · January 30, 2024 4:41PM

I’m thinking 66

vplite99 · January 30, 2024 4:49PM

MS66.

alaura22 · January 30, 2024 4:57PM

MS-66 CAC
Nice

FlyingAl · January 30, 2024 5:01PM

MS65.

braddick · January 30, 2024 5:06PM

66+
Love your photography!

jughead1893 · January 30, 2024 5:29PM

65

blitzdude · January 30, 2024 6:00PM

Wow 65+ CNGRTS!

logger7 · January 30, 2024 6:38PM

66, but the exceptional eye appeal and surfaces, except for the sun, could have earned it 67.

PeakRarities · January 30, 2024 6:46PM

Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels

alaura22 · January 30, 2024 7:04PM

@DeplorableDan said:
Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels

Lets all just hope that it met our expectations

MFeld · January 30, 2024 7:20PM

@DeplorableDan said:
Let us all savor this rare moment, when everyone’s guess is within two grade levels

I’ll guess MS68+

😉😉

Smudge · January 30, 2024 7:20PM

66.

Coinscratch · January 30, 2024 7:30PM

65

VanHalen · January 30, 2024 7:35PM

@braddick said:
66+
Love your photography!

x2. Gorgeous!

Luxor · January 30, 2024 7:48PM

Thank you all for guessing.....here goes.

HillbillyCollector · January 30, 2024 7:53PM

Darn, I thought that it was a 64 but everyone was shooting the moon, I was embarrassed to come with a lowly 64!😂

Coinscratch · January 30, 2024 7:53PM

My gut was thinking 64 with some of the high points and marks in the left field in the shadows. But the luster looked so good.

DelawareDoons · January 30, 2024 7:56PM

That will 5 today.

HillbillyCollector · January 30, 2024 7:58PM

@Coinscratch said:
My gut was thinking 64 with some of the high points and marks in the left field in the shadows. But the luster looked so good.

>
Exactly! I couldn’t take my eyes off that left field. But man, talk about killer luster!👍

scubafuel · January 30, 2024 7:58PM

Great photography!

Smudge · January 30, 2024 7:59PM

Darn nice 64.

alaura22 · January 30, 2024 8:14PM

Back to grading school for me, that looks way better than a 64

RobertScotLover · January 30, 2024 8:29PM

I missed the fantastic gtg, but here is my take. Denver Coin takes photos similar to the op's, and they make their coins look a lot better than they actual are. The op's photos are phenomenal, or they make the coin look phenomenal and that is why I believe the subject coin look like a ms65 gem ms68 all day long. I guess the adage, one cannot grade accurately from photos take precedence. Anyways, if the coin really and truly looks like the photo then I am very jealous

HillbillyCollector · January 30, 2024 8:33PM

@alaura22 said:
Back to grading school for me, that looks way better than a 64

When I first glanced, I too thought 66. Then, there’s something going on in the shadow of the left field and also between one of the rays above the ‘9.’ Now I don’t know much about Saints, but I thought it could be a potential issue.

braddick · January 30, 2024 9:19PM

66+
Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

That will 5 today.

That's a 5 everyday!
Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

DelawareDoons · January 30, 2024 9:40PM

@braddick said:
66+
Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

That will 5 today.

That's a 5 everyday!
Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

Lots of upgrades in old blue holders these days.

alaura22 · January 30, 2024 10:14PM

@DelawareDoons said:

@braddick said:
66+
Love your photography!> @DelawareDoons said:

That will 5 today.

That's a 5 everyday!
Unless I am missing unseen hairlines (tilted at an angle?) I don't get it.

Lots of upgrades in old blue holders these days.

That would be nice, I have lots of old blue holders

VanHalen · January 30, 2024 11:41PM

I've seen some pretty fugly 64 Saints.

That isn't one of them.

Luxor · January 31, 2024 5:41AM

The above pics are not mine, they're from GC. Here's the other from their website:

Jimnight · January 31, 2024 5:57AM

That's a nice one.

1madman · January 31, 2024 6:02AM

@DelawareDoons said:
That will 5 today.

But it won’t sticker as a 4 today?

LukeMarshall · January 31, 2024 6:06AM

That is a very Lustrous example of the 1927 Saint for sure!

DelawareDoons · January 31, 2024 6:14AM

@1madman said:

@DelawareDoons said:
That will 5 today.

But it won’t sticker as a 4 today?

CAC is TOUGH on gold.

PeakRarities · January 31, 2024 6:44AM

If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

TwoSides2aCoin · January 31, 2024 7:05AM

I grade it just about 2 grand ....plus or minus a couple hundred , depending on which side of the counter I'm working.

Coinscratch · January 31, 2024 7:46AM

@DeplorableDan said:
If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

Now, on my work pc I can enlarge and see the deep hits her crotch area otherwise 65/66 all day.

PeakRarities · January 31, 2024 8:12AM

@Coinscratch said:

@DeplorableDan said:
If that coin failed to sticker, it would have to be for something nefarious that we can’t see. I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

Now, on my work pc I can enlarge and see the deep hits her crotch area otherwise 65/66 all day.

Those hits are disguised well, and wouldn’t hold it back from 65 imo. I don’t even think they would hold it back from 66 if there were no other deep hits like the one in the left field.

Here’s a MS67 I recently sold, and it has one of those deeper pock marks in a similar location.

GoldFinger1969 · January 31, 2024 8:59AM

@DeplorableDan said:
I saw the shadows in the field initially, and I still graded it as a solid 65.

By shadows, you mean multiple bagmarks, DD ?

GoldFinger1969 · January 31, 2024 9:03AM

I guessed MS-65 with a good chance it was MS-66.

I've seen photos of coins where the lighting angle changes and you look at "before-and-after" shots and the coin looks TOTALLY different, like a 6-8 grade drop -- or more !! I couldn't believe my own eyes one time, it was that huge a change.

Deliberate or accidental, lighting angles alone can totally change how a coin looks from the actual naked eye visual (I guess some of you photog experts already know that). First time I saw it, again, I really was stunned.

I would guess TrueViews and the HA/GC pictures are done in such a way that there is no visual distortion, huh ?

Coinscratch · January 31, 2024 9:10AM

I just meant you can usually find the blemishes hiding in the shadows. Phil does a great of this when warranted. But by the same token sometimes these hits are highlighted especially on moderns or if they just can't hide.

Do you have another 67 ex. for sale? @DeplorableDan

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