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So How Would You Guess PCGS Graded This One? --Grade Revealed--

LuxorLuxor Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 19, 2023 3:50PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AG details cleaned

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good details, obverse scratched.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG details

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details-20 grit sandpaper

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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G06 details. But, given the teaser I'd venture G06 straight-graded.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 7,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GotTheBug said:
    G06 details. But, given the teaser I'd venture G06 straight-graded.

    I'm of the same mindset-looks to be a details coin that likely found its way into a problem-free holder.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FN12 straight grade.
    Sometimes lighting on nickel shows "scratches" that are not as prevalent as seen.

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    maymay Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ag3

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And the winner is................. 😂

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    bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G details scratch or graffiti

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G details harshly cleaned

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    semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have said G-6 straight grade.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Questionable authenticity

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    Questionable authenticity

    The pic shows that it's in a slab so they must think it's authentic.
    Those scratches are hairlines which are normal for well circulated coins and are highlighted by the harsh lighting.
    I'm guessing VG8 and straight graded.

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG10


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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without looking at Photograde I’d say good-06

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the "hairlines" I'm seeing are artifacts of photography and the old cleaning has since retoned... I'm thinking straight graded G6... just misses 8...

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Given current standards I'll say it's in a Fine holder.


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    World67World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G details

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    coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Straight grade Good 6

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG08

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was thinking VG8; ear visible, etc. so legalistically it fits the bill, could have gone higher.

    These do not wear well, why there are no poor1 graded Liberty nickels, not sure there are many fair2 either.

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG Details, three letters in the headband show but there is clear evidence of a harsh cleaning.

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    I would have graded it G-06

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i would say they graded it by looking at both sides carefully

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    NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good details

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq said:
    VG Details, three letters in the headband show but there is clear evidence of a harsh cleaning.

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    I’d be very surprised if the coin received a “harshly cleaned” details grade.

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    CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was a gift!

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A gift for the submitter, a wtf moment for most everyone else.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2023 7:05AM

    I would have graded it G-4.

    I remember years ago when someone commented that too much emphasis was placed on using the "LIBERTY" as a grading point for Liberty Nickels when the rest of the coin didn't measure up.

    The "LIBERTY" grading point may have started with the Brown and Dunn book that was published in the 1960s. They stated, however, that if their grading criteria points were reached, it was assumed the rest of the coin would be consistent with the grade. That is not always true.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing that coin shows more detail in hand than what we are seeing in those less than perfect pics.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    I'm guessing that coin shows more detail in hand than what we are seeing in those less than perfect pics.

    Do you mean more design detail or more detail in the scratches?😉

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No sticker for you

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2023 12:53PM

    A gift yes, but a very hard sell at near that grade pricing, if at all, should you decide to sell.
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    UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:
    Given current standards I'll say it's in a Fine holder.

    Agree. Assuming the “scratches” are either on the holder or not as prevalent as they seem in the pics, I would have graded this a VG10+ but as stated above, today’s standards seem to call this F12 (though I would say it is the very lowest of F12 possible).

    Joe.

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