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Here is a Daniel Carr piece that I'll bet most of you didn't even know about, much less seen.
MWallace
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Here is a Daniel Carr piece that I almost accidentally spent. Luckily I caught it before doing so and sent it off to ANACS.
@dcarr has listed them on his site here (scroll to the bottom): Moonlight Mint edge lettered plain edge Sac $
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They slab those? Have to get some of mine into plastic!
I know there was at least one other text that he did (two sections of the edge, if I recall correctly).
There were also custom texts that he did (my "Kilroy Was Here" being one).
Also, I think I sent him some coins for the "Darwin Rules" text after he offered some examples on ebay, so there could be more than the website shows.
Blah
ANACS is the official Moonlight Mint TPG. They will do virtually anything from there.
I knew this kind of crap was coming. Second post no less. If anyone is not interested, just move on. I'm not interested in EVERYTHING collected by board members, but I'm interested in hearing what people collect and think it's great that we have a place to discuss all of numismatics.
Daang, vbitis goin’ around the forum.
The irony is that poster's handle.
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Thanks for posting this. I didn't know about these.
Dan Carr's Franklin Half Dollars are incredible
Actually, all of his restrikes are great.
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Forget about those types of comments. You have some great coins in your collection! Thanks for posting!! 👍🏻
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Only 12 produced with Darwin Rules edge lettering. Very nice Moonlight Mint / Dan Carr pick up.
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I find it odd that someone who dislikes DC material so much would open a thread dedicated to DC material. If I see a thread on an item or subject I don’t like or have no interest in why would I waste time opening the thread. He just did the same to another DC thread on CoinTalk. He utilized “blah” again, but surrounded it with several other words. My suggestion to him is not open thread that are distasteful to him. We all have different tastes in what we collect. We don’t need to know why others don’t like the same things we do.
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Just another Debbie downer. I 100% agree with @robec here. WHY open a thread you’re not at all interested in? Why spread your negativity here?
He should at least save it up for the next Vault Box thread.
Cause miserable people want to spread their discomfort to others in a misguided sense of community. IMO. I don't have time for resentments. Peace Roy
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An earlier discussion with more photos. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/994123/a-different-kind-of-daniel-carr-collectable
And thanks - answers my question whether ANACS slabs these!
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Thx for the link.
I learned there - thanks to my own post
- that I did in fact have DCarr do some nickels for me.
@MWallace did you find it in a normal roll or in your change? Or was it one you originally received knowing what it was and almost mixed in with some regular examples?
Either way, that’s a cool find and it’s nice that you caught it before spending it!
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I've updated the section where I document the edge markings, based on the information presented here and new recollections (scroll to bottom of page here):
moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_dollars_list.htm
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I looks great! Thanks for the additional details.
"In Gold We Lust" - that's the one I also recalled. I picked one up on ebay (from you). I think you had said that double quote necessitated two passes through the machine.
P.S. - one of my orders included a few miscellaneous coins such as a British penny and a half dollar with weak reading, but you did mention on the page that a few other coins might have been done.
I'll often put aside coins, mostly from pocket change, to look at later. If it's Unc I'll usually put it in a flip. I was going thru some of those coins. The ones that I didn't find anything special about I set in a pile to be spent. This coin was in a flip with no description so I thought it was just one of the coins I had set aside to look at later. When I was taking coins out of the flips, I noticed the edge lettering. I thought I remembered it was one that I had gotten from Dan so I emailed him to ask about it. He verified he had done them.
Whew!! That was close.
Is it a DC piece or just edge lettering applied to a genuine coin?
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Really neat piece. I could have spent it too if I did not look at the edge. DC work is awesome.
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From the link above to Dan's website: "Edge Lettering Applied to Normal US Mint Smooth-Edge Coins."
What are these selling for? Has anyone seen one of these in actual circulation?
Subtle Darwin commemorative, what's not to like. I would like to find a specimen like yours one day...
Well, just Love coins, period.
Please elaborate!
Nah!
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Ok so this is cool, now I have to go back and look....Thank you for sharing
I am also a Dan Carr fan / have several of his coins and I do believe they will be valuable someday to collectors.
But it didn’t bother me that someone went “blah” - because I think it’s good to get a range of opinions even if some are negative.
I remember seeing a survey about these coins / tokens - and most collectors liked them but some didn’t. Both sides had interesting points. I wish I could find that original post - may have been more than one.
My favorites are the peace overstrikes - especially high relief - and the covid tokens I really like.
I got mine back from the ANACS last week:
Pacific Northwest Numismatic Association
Nice!
Soon 'll be posting a thread with another DCarr edge lettered coin I got slabbed recently.
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ANACS and ICG slab Daniel Carr pieces. Mine are in both slabs. I prefer the ICG ones because I think the ANACS slab is ugly. It's a personal thing and I'm too cheap to cross them. LOL.
Blah. There is more than one child around here who enjoys your cartoon posts.
If he put them into circulation could he get in trouble for defacing a coin?
@Married2Coins If he put them into circulation he would be out of business quickly. He would be losing tons of money.
I would guess that he could get into a load of trouble if putting them into circulation as well.
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Just to clarify, this thread is about DCarr edge-lettered coins. The coins are actual US Mint products where he has added his own (or custom) edge-lettering.
There are no legal issues with it because it was not done for fraudulent purposes, and it is not commercial advertising. (Those are the sorts of alterations that are prohibited on coins). They can be spent/circulated with no issues.
I understand his fantasy coins, look-alike, and overstrikes avoid the law but there might be something with these. I guess counterfeit paper is more important if there were. Anyone know where the government rules are printed.
A week ago someone posted that you cannot melt old Lincoln cents.
This subject has been discussed on this board to adnauseam. Do a search and you should find many discussions. Refer to @JBK 's post above. He is correct.
You can't melt copper cents because the copper value has risen above face value. If they were melted there would become a Cent shortage virtually overnight.
Considering that copper was removed from cents in 1982 which was over 40 years ago, I doubt that even 1% of the cents in current circulation are copper so I doubt allowing the copper cents to be melted would result in a cent shortage.
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True.
Where I live, a good 20% of pennies are copper. Living in a small town might have to do with it.
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My copper rate isn't quite that high but it did go up several years ago when copper prices pulled back a bit and at the same time copper hoarders realized they had no way to cash in.
Of course, the melt ban also applies to nickels.
@MWallace Cool!
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About 2 years ago I managed to get a couple experimental reeded edge dollars from Dan
A Sacagawea and an Innovation dollar, I love them!
ANACS called me this morning with an order that's completed, guess I should submit these then too?!
Didn't know about this thread...so here you go...
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You are correct, it has nothing to do with the metal issue. 31 U.S. Code § 5111(d) limits melting or taking coins out of the country for the purpose of insuring a sufficient amount for commerce by the plain wording of the text. But just imagine how many cents there are hiding in little jars throughout the country inhibiting commerce.
Maybe he is commenting that Darwin doesn't rule. hmmm
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Which one? FranklinHalfAddict?
Or someone with the handle "MWallace" holding a coin stamped "Darwin Rules"? That's the irony I saw.
(The theory of natural selection is now called the "Darwin Wallace Theory of natural selection", giving late credit to AR Wallace who posted his research on natural selection simultaneously and independent of Charles Darwin. One would not expect someone with (presumably) the surname "Wallace" to be holding a coin stamped "Darwin rules" after his namesake didn't get the recognition that Darwin received for decades.)
Darwin a veritable Hero of Biology & wish I could locate one of these......Many now consider the Theory of Evolution to be a Principle....Wonderful deductions by a naturalist of the old school.
Well, just Love coins, period.
At the time I made the "Darwin Rules" edge markings, there was an uproar from some people about "In God We Trust" not appearing on the new President Dollar coins (it was actually on the edge of most coins, although some coins had missing edge lettering in error). I thought the whole affair was blown a bit out of proportion. So a few coins don't have an obvious "In God We Trust" on them. I didn't see that as a major problem. The Native-Head/Bison nickel minted until 1938 did not ever have the motto.
So in addition to being a test, and for practice using the marking apparatus, I chose the wording as a sort of satire on the situation at the time.
That's an interesting "early Daniel Carr" piece. I'm glad that you didn't spend it.
I knew it would happen.