2023 W ASE available from the mint today, 5/25/23

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Glen2022
Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭

It's available at 12 noon, Eastern Time Price, $76, HHL 10, unlimited mintage.

I think I'll pass.

Anyone buying?

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  • NJCoin
    NJCoin Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm in for the usual. Given how insane bullion premiums are nowadays, these are the greatest relative bargains they have been in a long time, if ever.

    An ASE version with a mintage in the hundreds of thousands instead of tens of millions is selling at a mere 50% premium. It's expensive expressed in terms of bullion value, but when you consider that the bullion itself sells for a 100% premium, it's not a terrible deal at all, considering packaging, distribution costs, and the relatively tiny mintages.

  • Crusty
    Crusty Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Silver at $76 an ounce….. I’ll pass

  • Jzyskowski1
    Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No. I dialed my enrollment back to zero. Just a congratulations set and a couple S proofs.

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • Goldbully
    Goldbully Posts: 18,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What's an MS70 First Strike graded by PCGS going to be worth in a year or two?

    There are 2022-W ASE's in SP70FS selling for under $100 on eBay.

    $76 + $17 grading +$18 First Strike + S&H both ways = $$$

  • NeophyteNumismatist
    NeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have decided to leave all the profit from Mint products on the table for you guys. I hope you make a fortune.

    Until I have the old stuff I want, I can't think about the new stuff.

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • 124Spider
    124Spider Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think these things are pretty, and I don't care if, when my kids sell them, they get less than I paid for them. I'm in.

    :)

  • JeffM
    JeffM Posts: 587 ✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I am buying. I have subscriptions for the two proofs and the uncirculated ASE. The subscriptions are fantastic. No more fighting with the flippers and their bots on release day!

  • Glen2022
    Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldbully said:
    What's an MS70 First Strike graded by PCGS going to be worth in a year or two?

    There are 2022-W ASE's in SP70FS selling for under $100 on eBay.

    $76 + $17 grading +$18 First Strike + S&H both ways = $$$

    yes, and there's a significant possibility that any coins submitted grade less than MS 70. Probably better to wait and buy them in the secondary market in the desired grade.

  • djm
    djm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldbully said:
    What's an MS70 First Strike graded by PCGS going to be worth in a year or two?

    There are 2022-W ASE's in SP70FS selling for under $100 on eBay.

    $76 + $17 grading +$18 First Strike + S&H both ways = $$$

    Both Pinehusrt and CoinAdvisor are selling the Burnished 2023-W PCGS First Strike SP70 for $108.99. Why would anyone pay more to get them directly from the mint. See above calculations.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hard Pass

  • PhillyJoe
    PhillyJoe Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭✭
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    Is the proof at $80 a bargain or is the uncirculated overpriced?

    The Philadelphia Mint: making coins since 1792. We make money by making money. Now in our 225th year thanks to no competition. image
  • 124Spider
    124Spider Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PhillyJoe said:
    Is the proof at $80 a bargain or is the uncirculated overpriced?

    Neither

  • Jzyskowski1
    Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They make hundreds of thousands of the proofs and the burnished has had some very low mintages 130,000 to 150,000 and sell for cost, slabbed. I’ve researched the heck out of the burnished ase and low mintage ain’t helping these. A genuine mint mark doesn’t help. I’m truly confused but not fooled. With that said just watch these be a hot😂

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • JeffM
    JeffM Posts: 587 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2023 4:35AM
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    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    They make hundreds of thousands of the proofs and the burnished has had some very low mintages 130,000 to 150,000 and sell for cost, slabbed. I’ve researched the heck out of the burnished ase and low mintage ain’t helping these. A genuine mint mark doesn’t help. I’m truly confused but not fooled. With that said just watch these be a hot😂

    Aren't all of the W uncirculated ASEs burnished? No mintage limit for those.

  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Greater than 100k mintage for a ho-hummer design that comes back year after year after year with all being saved in higher mint state grades.
    What' not to love? LOL

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @djm said:

    @Goldbully said:
    What's an MS70 First Strike graded by PCGS going to be worth in a year or two?

    There are 2022-W ASE's in SP70FS selling for under $100 on eBay.

    $76 + $17 grading +$18 First Strike + S&H both ways = $$$

    Both Pinehusrt and CoinAdvisor are selling the Burnished 2023-W PCGS First Strike SP70 for $108.99. Why would anyone pay more to get them directly from the mint. See above calculations.

    Agree. I pre-ordered mine in April. No reason to buy from the Mint if you collect PCGS 70's in most cases these days. It also takes way too long and is risky to get things graded as an individual submitter.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just get 'special' one's from the Mint... have not seen any coming up. Prices will not be going down... at least not in the foreseeable future.... Cheers, RickO

  • MikeDoubleddie
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    No Eagles this year. Saving for the Gold tree

  • DoubleDime
    DoubleDime Posts: 700 ✭✭✭
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    I was going to get this one for type as I already have a Type-2 Proof and Unc. Then the Mint had some more 2022 for sell and I got that instead. I saved $9.

  • Project Numismatics
    Project Numismatics Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MikeDoubleddie said:
    No Eagles this year. Saving for the Gold tree

    Excited for the tree.

  • JeffM
    JeffM Posts: 587 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Project Numismatics said:

    @MikeDoubleddie said:
    No Eagles this year. Saving for the Gold tree

    Excited for the tree.

    Yes, the tree (American Liberty) is a real winner. One of the best designs I’ve seen in a long time. Looking forward to getting one (I hope).

  • Jzyskowski1
    Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Can’t do the gold but the silver tree will do 😁

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • JeffM
    JeffM Posts: 587 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Can’t do the gold but the silver tree will do 😁

    Agreed. If I do buy the gold, I need to cut back on my British gold purchases. That country is going nuts with all the coronation coins, but understandably so. I purchased several silver and a couple small gold coins.

  • Jzyskowski1
    Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2023 7:17AM
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    I’m actually considering getting a couple I really like the design and I hope they continue with the lovely custom case. Last year was really very nice packaging wise and I really liked that design also. Thanks 🙏

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • alefzero
    alefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I forgot I had a subscription for 10 of them. Showed up at the POB this morning. Unlike in the past, I will probably just put them raw in the Mint packaging in my cases at Long Beach and sell with a modest markup. Took too many baths getting them slabbed with First Strike tags and gold shields. Even if they all came back as 70, just cannot compete against the bulk guys with their lower cost bases.

  • erscolo
    erscolo Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I ordered one and it arrived within a week of release date and looks good. It will stay with its' original packaging as always.

  • Onastone
    Onastone Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @djm said:

    Why would anyone pay more to get them directly from the mint.

    @erscolo said:

    It will stay with its' original packaging as always.

    Some collectors like to keep their coins raw. Slabs are nice protectors and proof of grade/quality, but having the raw original ungraded coin can be satisfying. Yes, I know it's getting expensive...but what isn't? Has anyone checked the price of eggs lately???

  • 124Spider
    124Spider Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Onastone said:

    @djm said:

    Why would anyone pay more to get them directly from the mint.

    @erscolo said:

    It will stay with its' original packaging as always.

    Some collectors like to keep their coins raw. Slabs are nice protectors and proof of grade/quality, but having the raw original ungraded coin can be satisfying. Yes, I know it's getting expensive...but what isn't? Has anyone checked the price of eggs lately???

    Exactly! When I buy an expensive coin, I care about resale value, so I always buy expensive coins already certified.

    But these things aren't expensive, so I am not concerned about resale. I think they're very pretty, and I like looking at them in their original packaging much more than in a slab.

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