It's that thing when you can't tell if she's gorgeous or hideous.

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Weiss
Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

So you tell me. Gorgeous or hideous?

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame
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  • coastaljerseyguy
    coastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not attractive that is for sure. Believe a quick dip can turn that gal around. Maybe Redfield peach juice.

  • keyman64
    keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not for me.

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    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
  • percyb
    percyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a drunken hag.

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  • erscolo
    erscolo Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hideous fits.

  • 1madman
    1madman Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sloshy diarrhea toning

  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You guys know what they say about ugly girls, right?

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A coin I would pass on.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it

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  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ChrisH821 said:
    I like it

    THANK you, @ChrisH821 . I knew there had to be a few guys out there who dig her.
    The contrast between yellow/peach and stark white, and the crazy luster, really need to be seen in hand.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • jesbroken
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    A dip in acetone may change your opinions and then may not.
    Jim


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  • Weiss
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    @jesbroken said:
    A dip in acetone may change your opinions and then may not.
    Jim

    And potentially lose the MS65 designation?! ;)

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    --Severian the Lame
  • JJM
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    Its certainly different

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  • Walkerfan
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    Not the best I’ve ever seen but far from hideous.

    Perfectly acceptable.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • Spud2020
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    I like it. PCI holders are notorious for toning like this.

  • braddick
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    It is the unknown if it is lustrous or not.
    With blazing, booming luster, that golden tone would be attractive.
    If it is dull and lifeless that "golden" toning takes on a more menacing look.

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  • Weiss
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    @braddick said:
    It is the unknown if it is lustrous or not.
    With blazing, booming luster, that golden tone would be attractive.
    If it is dull and lifeless that "golden" toning takes on a more menacing look.

    BOOMING. Insane.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/MgxUMG0kWC8

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  • asheland
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    This is one of the few exceptions where I would say, I would want to dip.

    Under that toning, there’s got to be a really pretty coin. I can tell it’s well struck and got great luster.

  • seatedlib3991
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    I love wonderous variety in my collection. Would snatch that up far before I would get any of a hundred clones. James

  • Tom147
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    Would be more acceptable if the streaky toning wasn't on her face. If I didn't pass completely, I believe it would be submitted for conservation.

  • telephoto1
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    @Spud2020 said:
    I like it. PCI holders are notorious for toning like this.

    I don't know about "notorious" per se but I do agree that I have seen several wild toners in their holders.
    I like the color of this piece but the weird patterns make me wonder how this could happen naturally.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • SanctionII
    SanctionII Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This coin is a candidate for being purchased on line at 2:00 a.m. on a Saturday morning by a collector (who has had too much to eat and drink after leaving work on Friday afternoon) who is itching to bring home a new coin after trying and failing to do so for the past 7-8 hours.

    Sort of like going to a bar on Friday night and staying until closing time at 2:00 a.m. The closer to closing time one gets, the better looking persons still at the bar look.

  • MFeld
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    @Weiss said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I like it

    THANK you, @ChrisH821 . I knew there had to be a few guys out there who dig her.
    The contrast between yellow/peach and stark white, and the crazy luster, really need to be seen in hand.

    For the record, I like the coin too. But that’s a different matter from thinking it’s gorgeous.

    Regarding speculation about the coin being from the Redfield hoard - my recollection is that many or most Redfield coins exhibit toning that’s less translucent and more mottled than seen on this one.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • braddick
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    @telephoto1 said:

    @Spud2020 said:
    I like it. PCI holders are notorious for toning like this.

    I don't know about "notorious" per se but I do agree that I have seen several wild toners in their holders.
    I like the color of this piece but the weird patterns make me wonder how this could happen naturally.

    Perhaps "notorious" is too strong, yet close enough.
    These are just a few offered now on eBay and recently sold:





  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can appreciate it. I'd take that over a plain white one. It's unique and a pretty color despite the splotchiness. We all know that date comes flashy and I haven't even looked at the video posted yet.

  • Shane6596
    Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    To me the toning reminds me of something varnished and its peeling off. If it were a smooth transition i could like it, this one tho, my ocd would kick in everytime i looked at it and i would want to dip it.

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not really my "cup of tea". I dont mind understated toning and there appears and be some luster under the color but the pukey yellow isn't what I typically associate with "color" on a Morgan Dollar.

    Hopefully, she'll find a good home before closing time...

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  • boxerdad
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    @percyb said:
    Looks like a drunken hag.

    i've done worse...

    i am dyslexia of borg futility is resistant your ass will be laminated.

  • coinbuf
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    @Weiss said:
    You guys know what they say about ugly girls, right?

    No, can you elaborate? :D There is something about those older PCI holders, the toning can be, ahh, interesting.

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  • braddick
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    @percyb said:
    Looks like a drunken hag.

    i've done worse...

    She hasn't.
    :D

  • Clackamas1
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    It is AT.

  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Interesting how some of the labels say "100% White"... hmmm.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • MFeld
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    @telephoto1 said:
    Interesting how some of the labels say "100% White"... hmmm.

    What’s the “hmmm” for? Many coins tone in holders, without any intentional assistance.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • telephoto1
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    @MFeld said:

    @telephoto1 said:
    Interesting how some of the labels say "100% White"... hmmm.

    What’s the “hmmm” for? Many coins tone in holders, without any intentional assistance.

    Don't recall saying they can't...

    What I am saying is that at a minimum, the PCI holders from this period weren't sealed very well, allowing air or perhaps other gases in.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • Meltdown
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    @telephoto1 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @telephoto1 said:
    Interesting how some of the labels say "100% White"... hmmm.

    What’s the “hmmm” for? Many coins tone in holders, without any intentional assistance.

    Don't recall saying they can't...

    What I am saying is that at a minimum, the PCI holders from this period weren't sealed very well, allowing air or perhaps other gases in.

    They may not be completely air tight...
    I think it's also widely believed that the plastic is full of chemicals that accelerate the tarnish, not unlike the small Anacs holders of that era.

  • sellitstore
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    I like the color but not the pattern.

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  • TPRC
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    I'm in the "more gorgeous than hideous" camp! Then again, my standards have softened with age.

    Tom

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @telephoto1 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @telephoto1 said:
    Interesting how some of the labels say "100% White"... hmmm.

    What’s the “hmmm” for? Many coins tone in holders, without any intentional assistance.

    Don't recall saying they can't...

    What I am saying is that at a minimum, the PCI holders from this period weren't sealed very well, allowing air or perhaps other gases in.

    Don’t recall saying you said they can’t.😉
    I didn’t know the reason for your “hmmm” so asked and commented about coins toning in holders.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • may
    may Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hideous. RickO would agree. :D

  • rte592
    rte592 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is this one of those if you're the seller or the buyer sorta questions :)
    30/70 you pick which one.

  • Rebelgal
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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

  • Weiss
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    @Rebelgal said:
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

    "B" holder.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame

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