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1888-o Morgan Dollar. Do you know what Harrison stage this is?

AgflyerAgflyer Posts: 951 ✭✭✭

I have an 1888-o Morgan Dollar, which appears to be an EDS Scarface. I'm curious about which Harrison Stage it is, and I was wondering if anyone here could help identify it. My photos are just close-ups in natural light of what I believe are some of the key identifiers. I'm definitely not a photographer :smiley:. The coin is in a PCGS MS-63 holder. Thanks in advance!!



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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never heard of a Harrison stage? Looks like a normal Morgan dollar to me.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the resources thread pinned to the top of the US Forum is a link to the VAM page.

    http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/Home

    Go to the Morgan 1888 O page:

    http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1888-O_VAMs

    On this page there is a link to the scarface VAM with some good Information on the stages. Starts at page 27 of the pdf.

    http://www.ssdcvams.com/VAMview9.pdf

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    AgflyerAgflyer Posts: 951 ✭✭✭

    Perfect, that's what I was hoping to find! Thank you very much.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your 1888-O EDS looks like a Vam1B2 Harrison 2 maybe 3 to me.The die crack has yet to make any headway into the field in front of Liberty’s nose which would notate a H4 or H5. Here is one I found years ago in a dealer’s common silver dollar box. This is a Vam 1B4 H10- Terminal die state as described in Harrison’s book.

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    AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I learned something new!

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3

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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭✭

    Stage 2-3. Leaning towards 3 for the die crack’s length. Cool EDS Scarface. Thanks for sharing.

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    alefzeroalefzero Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2023 5:54PM

    Stage 4 - crack birfucates in the field inside the dot in 3 and a small break (evident on yours) forms on the inner side of the dot in 4. (From VAMView #9, Sept 2007)

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JFriedman what is the grade of your great piece?

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover, PCGS chose to grade this an MS61

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That pic is much better i can see the "scar" now. Still I've never heard of Harrison. Is this something new?

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    That pic is much better i can see the "scar" now. Still I've never heard of Harrison. Is this something new?

    There are two coins pictured. First the OP is an EDS (early die state) of the Scarface variety and only has a crack in the field (and noted as not a true scarface). The second picture is another coin and a later die state and has the Scarface crack thought the 'face'.

    I don't know when Harrison started but the pdf that I linked above is dated Sept. 2007 and the 1888 O by Ash Harrison. The link above to the VAM 1B for the Scarface notes that the VAM stages 1B1 through 1B4 were discovered in 2006 (last one in Jan 2007). So perhaps the noted pdf in 2007 is about when the Harrison 10 stages started. Just guess work on my part though.

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    RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not being a VAM afficionado, I was unaware of the finite gradations for the scarface Morgan. Learned a bit here this morning. Cheers, RickO

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @lilolme

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very desirable variety! Thanks for sharing information.

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