1931-S Lincoln Cent - Guess The Grade (GRADE NOW IN THREAD!)

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mattniss
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edited March 28, 2023 10:24AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Fresh from PCGS. Been in family collection for decades.

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  • ajaan
    ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2023 1:25PM
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    WAG VF20 ;)


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  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 989 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65 BN

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  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65BN.

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  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll guess 64.

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  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64BN, a sweet example.

  • erscolo
    erscolo Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63BN

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64BN.

  • Maywood
    Maywood Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AU62.

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65 RB

  • robec
    robec Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64BN

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63 Brown. Fingerprints visible in the obverse fields should prevent it from going higher. The soft appearance also does not help.

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  • OAKSTAR
    OAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2023 2:49PM
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    65 RB Progressive Indirect Design Transfer. Not be confused with a die clash or a greasy ghost.

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  • DRUNNER
    DRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Solid coin. 64BN

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  • ajaan
    ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @braddick said:

    @ajaan said:
    WAG VF20 ;)

    :o

    :'(

    When I posted that there wasn't an image visible.


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  • OAKSTAR
    OAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ajaan said:

    @braddick said:

    @ajaan said:
    WAG VF20 ;)

    :o

    :'(

    When I posted that there wasn't an image visible.

    So edit your post.

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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ajaan said:

    @braddick said:

    @ajaan said:
    WAG VF20 ;)

    :o

    :'(

    When I posted that there wasn't an image visible.

    I thought you were applying EAC + grading standards!

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  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64 BN

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ajaan said:

    @braddick said:

    @ajaan said:
    WAG VF20 ;)

    :o

    :'(

    When I posted that there wasn't an image visible.

    :o

    :'(

  • TPRC
    TPRC Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not RB to my eye. I'll say 64BN, late dies state, as noted, and pretty! Prints never bothered me much but most people, and graders don't like them.

    Tom

  • coinbuf
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    I'm in the 64BN camp myself, but would not be surprised if in a 65BN.

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  • Riley1955
    Riley1955 Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
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    I'll also go 64BN

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65BN was my first impression...

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  • Indianlincoln
    Indianlincoln Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
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    65bn

    What did it grade?

  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63 BN

  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will guess 64BN as well. Possibly 63BN if PCGS is stingy. Worst case is Genuine-QC -- PCGS seems to be hammering colorfully toned Lincolns lately. I recently had a handful of album-toned Lincolns get hammered with QC (including a 31-S :/ )

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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I believe it deserves 65BN, but will probably grade 64BN. A beauty for that series. Congrats.
    Jim


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  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64BN

  • hbarbee
    hbarbee Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭
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    MS63BN

  • Batman23
    Batman23 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A nice looking MS64BN I'm thinking.

  • AlanSki
    AlanSki Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5BN

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58

  • Grantu
    Grantu Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
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    64BN

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64 BN

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a 64BN to me... TruView's are usually beauty shots... so maybe 63. Cheers, RickO

  • dsessom
    dsessom Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks about MS64BN to me. Lots of red peeking through. Nice stinkin' Lincoln! :)

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  • Shamika
    Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    64RB although I personally think it should be 64BN

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64 rb, I like

  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2023 8:26AM
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    Choice uncirculated, MS64. I like it. ;)

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So this weak/soft strike ya'll guys have mentioned mixed with the obverse toning to me appears to be rub but apparently is not. I should change my answer from 58 to 65BN but instead I'll just wait to be schooled...

  • beezlebazzle
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    @mattniss said:

    Fresh from PCGS. Been in family collection for decades.

    64 BN, very nice key.

  • Bigbuck1975
    Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62

  • asheland
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    My guess was 64 BN Nice coin!

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2023 10:44AM
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    Wondering if the luster is lower than the photo suggests, it is a tough date to find nice. A gold bean would look nice on that slab.

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  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @mattniss said:
    Thanks for all the guesses everyone. This came back MS62BN(!!). I had been expecting 63BN all day, maybe a small chance for RB.

    On the bright side, this might be the nicest MS62BN 1931-S out there, so maybe it will go to CAC at some point. PCGS really tough graders these days!

    Okay. PCGS says not "choice". "Select" unc. say they probably because of the bit of strike weakness seen. If this piece were mine, I would leave it be gradewise as you say you are going to do. CAC green sticker would likely happen and would be a nice touch. PCGS is very conservative, the most conservative grading service of them all. Notwithstanding what anyone says, your '31-S is a coin you can continue to be proud to own. The color/toning is very nice. As the millennials say, "it is what it is."

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    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • Maywood
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    So my guess was AU62 and @telephoto1 gave me an lol. I hope it was for the AU and not the 62!! :p

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  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Maywood said:
    So my guess was AU62 and @telephoto1 gave me an lol. I hope it was for the AU and not the 62!! :p

    I thought you were just hedging your bets. B)


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  • Maywood
    Maywood Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @telephoto1 said: I thought you were just hedging your bets.

    The coin has the obverse look of lighter toned high point areas which appear to be cabinet friction. I know from medals which quite often sit in a "box of issue" for decades and end up looking similarly that it's not rub, but a coin like this would tend to be rub. So, yes, I think it was a sort of hedge. :)

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