Unique dateless St. Gaudens pattern!

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Zoins
Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 30, 2023 8:03AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here's a dateless St. Gaudens trial piece I just ran across while searching USPatterns.com!

Check it out, it really has no date!

Are there any other pieces struck with this dateless obverse die?

It's struck on an oversize brass planchet and cataloged as JA1908-1 and P2011.

Also amazing is that Stack's donated it to the Smithsonian. Is there any additional info on this?

https://uspatterns.stores.yahoo.net/p2011.html

USPatterns.com said:
JA1908-1/P2011

This is an undated trial piece struck, off-center, on an oversized brass planchet using the with motto reverse thus we list it in the Splasher section but Pollock chose not to.

The piece is unique and was donated by Stacks to the Smithsonian.

Photo courtesy of the National Numismatic Collection of the Smithsonian Institution.

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What a cool item.... Would certainly command a premium if placed on the market. Cheers, RickO

  • Broadstruck
    Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Zoins said:
    Here's a dateless St. Gaudens trial piece I just ran across while searching USPatterns.com!

    Check it out, it really has no date!

    I'd gladly spend Valentine's Day with that! <3;):D

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  • TomB
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    That's pretty dang wild.

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  • DCW
    DCW Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Doesn't really look off center to me.
    What an awesome piece! Hopefully the Smithsonian actually displays it instead of locking it away in a crate with the Ark of the Covenant.

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  • olympicsos
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    Any original plasters remain that weren't destroyed in 1910 of both the Saint and the Indian Head $10?

  • keyman64
    keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dang, another special coin locked up in a museum's vault drawer so no one can ever see it again. :(
    That thing is cool.

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  • jacrispies
    jacrispies Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Huh interesting! This coin has a lot going on with it. Thanks for sharing!

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  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wonder if this is a prototype for putting the date on the edge ;)

  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2023 7:13PM
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    Want to thank @MrEureka and Saul for maintaining the great USPatterns.com site.

    Lots of great info there! :+1:

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