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What happened to this coin?
zski123
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Recently purchased this 1897-P Barber Half in an estate auction. Can someone explain what caused the apparent "cracking" on this coin? If you look closely, it almost appears to reflect the image of the bust. Just curious. Thanks!
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Could be a defective planchet or improper alloy mix. IMO. Peace Roy
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Or, it could be a ground recovery.
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Interesting effect... I would say planchet flaw exacerbated by wear or time in ground...Cheers, RickO
Weigh it. Could be a cast counterfeit.
My first thought is counterfeit.
Looks exactly like my counterfeit Barber half.
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When I saw the pic, my first thought is fake. How much does it weigh?
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are those little die chips in the 8 and 9?
I'm wondering fake also. Soo much displaced metal in most all of the lettering and date.
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I’m going with not genuine
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I have never used them (CAC) and wonder how rank and file players (average to low budget) will react to their slabs if more expensive especially in a recession. I probably will pick up a few of their slabs in the course of business unless it’s some deal that makes me the end user.
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Well all the little blobs in some of the letters/numbers are not looking good.
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I vote fake. Too many blobs of extra metal in the devices.
pass, theres to much going on for me, jmo
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@Cougar1978 I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest maybe you were trying to respond to a different thread?????
Fake.
Agreed not genuine. Look at that A in America....couldn't be worse.
12.38 grams was the weight. Taking it in tomorrow to my friends shop and placing on his Sigma. I looked at examples of issues resulting in blobs but so many and their placement???? I'm guessing fake as well.
Lamination from a fake planchet strike????
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provide the weight... I really would rather not opine without an adequate investigation and review of those facts- At this juncture, you will not like to read my premature thoughts
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Was it possibly rubbed so that some crud or dirt could very moved. One picture looks a little shiny but imagine that's from the lighting.
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The item in question is a counterfeit.
But it is a domestic cast fake made out of pot metal for the purpose of spending at face value to earn a profit.
It is not a Chinese counterfeit (which are recent fakes made to fool collectors).
I did. It's 12.38 grams. Took it to my local dealer and placed it on his Sigma. It's 90% silver and the diameter is correct. He thinks it's fake but it looks like an old counterfeit but this begs the question why someone would counterfeit a coin that isn't a rarity using the same silver content? I didn't pay a lot which I'm grateful for.
I don't know what to make of this... the weight would be within the accepted range. I wonder if this is a contemporary counterfeit made in a similar vein as the so-called Micro O Morgans- 1896-o; 1900-o and 1902-o- might have a connection to the free silver movement
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If you get a chance, have an XRF test done to measure the metallic content. The "Sigma" is a useful device, but in this case I think the XRF would provide the definitive data,
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to have an XRF test per another suggestion.