Chinese fake twist
UPDATE: All items now removed, seller has no items up for sale.
Maybe I'm late to the party but here's an ebay auction that the instant I saw it screamed fake.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354263471915
and here's where it came from:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/US-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-Out-centre_1600082845139.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.317115c0lkMJq5
So now we have to worry about fake errors.
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The fake errors have been around for a while.

Seller has a second one listed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354263434394
Check the sellers sold items.
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I have to admit, that's pretty cool.
When in doubt, don't.0 -
Well, as long as the fake errors look like that, we don't have to worry much about them.
John
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution3 -
well it is a pretty scarce error, even by chinese standards.
the obv rotation doesn't match the reverses. to say that is not common is putting it mildly.
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Keep posting these with pictures. These fakes are easy for experienced collectors, but the new collectors can easily dump funds on them. Every bit helps. Cheers, RickO
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Oh, reported as well.
bob
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Both reported
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@AUandAG said:
Oh, reported as well.
bob
fwiw, the links are appreciated but if you REALLY want to turn the reports up a notch, if you do, post the link to the report page so us viewers can just go straight there. fwiw.

keep fightin' the war!
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He already scammed someone for $565 for a different fake:
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He sold an 1893s Morgan for under $600. Can't see the pics but can be pretty certain it was not real.
bob
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com0 -
Disgusting, to bad bidders can’t be notified before they pay
MIKE B.
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@Mike59 said:
Disgusting, to bad bidders can’t be notified before they payI've wanted to warn bidders a number of times... Alas no buyer to buyer alerting system
I can see how it could be abused though. Would be tricky to implement.2 -
@spyglassdesign said:
@Mike59 said:
Disgusting, to bad bidders can’t be notified before they payI've wanted to warn bidders a number of times... Alas no buyer to buyer alerting system
I can see how it could be abused though. Would be tricky to implement.We used to be able to do just that or we could report the auction to Judy in Utah. She'd take care of it no problemo.
bob
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@spyglassdesign said:
@Mike59 said:
Disgusting, to bad bidders can’t be notified before they payI've wanted to warn bidders a number of times... Alas no buyer to buyer alerting system
I can see how it could be abused though. Would be tricky to implement.becoming the high bidder can reduce the amount of successful sales until ebay can be alerted. i have a couple accounts that are somewhat idle i use for this purpose with false info so the sellers can't tell whom it is.
the people around these parts are so adamant about reporting, very few made it to hammer time.
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@AUandAG said:
He sold an 1893s Morgan for under $600. Can't see the pics but can be pretty certain it was not real.
bob
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i can be such a numbnutz!thought your typed CC and i went looking for one, OBVIOUSLY to no avail ! came back and see you actually typed S. doh
challenge accepted though!

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<--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -1 -
The Chinese fakemasters have always been making "fake errors". Mules, wrong dates, spelling errors, all are commonly seen on the cheaper fakes. The street hawkers who sell these things in the markets will, if you point out the "errors" on their coins, immediately launch into a sales spiel about how rare and valuable such error coins must be (and bump their prices up accordingly).
The coin in the OP is merely a less subtle example.
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Amazing how much time a person puts in a make/sell a fake! They could be well off if they put that same time into an an honest endeavour. I know, wishful thinking.

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It’s free pickup. Send the info to the secret service and see if they will do anything. I doubt it since they aren’t trying to use the coin as money.
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The OP coin looks almost photoshopped...
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The fake error was pulled and the seller doesn't have anything else for sale now. Maybe somebody from the forum's still has a friend at E-Bay.
If that that's the case, I say "Bravo"MIKE B.
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I think, like most crooked endeavors, if a type of coin has a greater than average value, there will be counterfeit copies made and I think that will be found to be across the board.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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I have seen some that are fairly deceptive until you try to attribute them...


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