is this 1961 D Dime Mint error ?

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Is the "1" in "61" a die error or PMD. Also, the "JS" initials look wonky.

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  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nope, PMD. :/

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency .... Your coin has PMD... No numismatic premium. Cheers, RickO

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    I never ask about "numismatic premium." I did not see any damage to the surface of the coin that would account for the "1" and the "JS".

  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Contact Mark/damage on the digits and the initials

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @FredWeinberg Mr. Weinberg, could you please explain if you are saying if it is PMD or something that occurred during the minting process?

  • jonathanb
    jonathanb Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Post-mint damage happened AFTER the minting process, by definition.

  • bsshog40
    bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    @FredWeinberg Mr. Weinberg, could you please explain if you are saying if it is PMD or something that occurred during the minting process?

    His post stated "Contact Mark/Damage"!!! That is considered PMD!

  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Contact marks mean something impacted, hit, or contacted the coins’ surface-And it refers to something that occurs after the minting process– Can refer to other coins in a bag, or just about anything that hits the surface of the coin. Aka: PMD

    ‘damage on the digits‘ Is self-explanatory

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    If I knew what @FredWeinberg meant i wouldn't have asked. Not everyone can be as smart as you guys. I see people on this forum ask if the hobby is dying. It is because people like you are killing it. Get some joy in your life. And @bsshog40 stick your !!!!!! where the sun doesn't shine. I don't care if I get banned because it is not fun to interact with the people on this forum.

  • bsshog40
    bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 6:21PM
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    If I knew what @FredWeinberg meant i wouldn't have asked. Not everyone can be as smart as you guys. I see people on this forum ask if the hobby is dying. It is because people like you are killing it. Get some joy in your life. And @bsshog40 stick your !!!!!! where the sun doesn't shine. I don't care if I get banned because it is not fun to interact with the people on this forum.

    Wow, testy aren't we! I was merely pointing out what Fred stated! I figured you had enough intelligence to understand that. Guess I was wrong!!!! It's not surprising to expect a response like this from someone who doubts a professional opinion when their own opinion is all that matters. You had already copped an attitude in your 2nd post. Have a good day!

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @FredWeinberg Mr. Weinberg, could you please explain if you are saying if it is PMD or something that occurred during the minting process?

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @bsshog40 read my post before you stick your nose in it. I didn’t question his opinion, I asked him to explain it to me. That’s how people learn. I also don’t think @FredWeinberg needs your assistance. So, to answer your question, yes you were wrong. The only attitude that was wrong was yours. Mind your own business when the question was directed to a specific person. I actually respect Mr. Weinberg. You, not so much.

  • bsshog40
    bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    @bsshog40 read my post before you stick your nose in it. I didn’t question his opinion, I asked him to explain it to me. That’s how people learn. I also don’t think @FredWeinberg needs your assistance. So, to answer your question, yes you were wrong. The only attitude that was wrong was yours. Mind your own business when the question was directed to a specific person. I actually respect Mr. Weinberg. You, not so much.

    Someone needs to look up the word "Damage" in the dictionary! Lol

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @bsshog40 let it go. Please troll someone else.

  • Oldhoopster
    Oldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    @bsshog40 read my post before you stick your nose in it. I didn’t question his opinion, I asked him to explain it to me. That’s how people learn. I also don’t think @FredWeinberg needs your assistance. So, to answer your question, yes you were wrong. The only attitude that was wrong was yours. Mind your own business when the question was directed to a specific person. I actually respect Mr. Weinberg. You, not so much.

    Mr Weinberg was clear in all his responses. You're basically asking the equivalent of an MIT mathematics professor to help balance your checkbook, which he was kind enough to do.

    This site has many knowledgeable and helpful members who can provide accurate info on basic questions like this (which some did). If you want to chose to ignore them, that's your business, but my recommendation is to not alienate them or you'll soon be getting minimal help in the future. Choice is yours. Just my thoughts

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    @FredWeinberg Mr. Weinberg, could you please explain if you are saying if it is PMD or something that occurred during the minting process?

    Mr. Weinberg is saying post mint damage. All contact marks are post mint damage.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @Oldhoopster Mr. Weinberg freely gave me his opinion and I asked “him” for clarification because I did not understand. I am very knowledgeable in my field after 34 years, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand everything that I do. Why do you feel it is necessary to comment like this? He is one of the few people on this forum that has given good advice and opinions. The rest of you are more background noise than anything. Let it go.

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @jmlanzaf I understand now, but the peanut gallery keeps piling on.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @isamucoinandcurrency said:
    @jmlanzaf I understand now, but the peanut gallery keeps piling on.

    Just ignore them. It doesn't help anyone to get in these spats. Better to just ignore the curmudgeons. They just can't help themselves.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    Anything I can do to help?

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @Abehunter Thank you but no. Let me know if you are ever needing a certain “Abe”. I have more than anyone should ever have.

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    I will,I'm just enjoying going through coin rolls

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @Abehunter sounds good. I have enough to share.

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    How many is enough? Just wondering, so I'll know when I get there?

  • isamucoinandcurrency
    isamucoinandcurrency Posts: 114 ✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 8:07PM
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    @Abehunter enough is when you load them in the bed of your Nissan Frontier pick up and bend a leaf spring.

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    That's alot!!you didn't go rent a storage building to put them did you?

  • habaraca
    habaraca Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FredWeinberg said:
    Contact Mark/damage on the digits and the initials

    isamucoinandcurrency........

    maybe familiarize with the information to better educate yourself

    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=634495

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    Go read a book,really!!can I borrow your library card?

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    Is everything that I want to know there ?habaraca

  • isamucoinandcurrency
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    @habaraca bite me

  • habaraca
    habaraca Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    hey folks this is what you get for trying to help the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

  • Abehunter
    Abehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
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    Now your trying to take credit for someone else,really!!

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2022 3:57AM
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    @habaraca said:

    hey folks this is what you get for trying to help the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

    Reactions like the one you got are why I have largely stopped replying on threads started by new members. The newbies seem to be getting nastier by the day.

  • originalisbest
    originalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
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    Shouldn't isamuc learn the difference between PMD and a valuable mint error? I'd say he's quite a lot of learning ahead of him, but with such an open and willing attitude, he'll go very, very far; I am sure of that! LOL

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