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Stewart Blay's #1 Proof Lincoln Registry Set Is Being Auctioned

CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2, 2024 12:48PM in Buy, Sell, & Trade - U.S. Coins

After a lengthy hiatus, I visited the forum today looking for some background information on the sale of Stewart Blay's #1 proof Lincoln set on Great Collections:

The-1-Red-Copper-Registry-Set-for-Proof-Lincoln-Cents

To my surprise, there doesn't seem to be an existing thread about such a major numismatic sale. I always enjoyed looking at the displays of his sets at major shows. Given his passion for red copper, I am a bit surprised he's selling this set. Does anyone know if Stewart is leaving the hobby?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
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    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    My Roosevelt Dime Registry Set
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
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    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    Try @RedCopper and you’ll have a much better chance of success.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
    Last Active
    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    I said maybe...

    Starting to remember why I enjoyed the last few months...😉

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
    Last Active
    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    Try @RedCopper and you’ll have a much better chance of success.😉

    Yes. That's the one!

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
    Last Active
    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    Try @RedCopper and you’ll have a much better chance of success.😉

    Yes. That's the one!

    Maybe 😈

    😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone sells sometime, while I am not a buyer at these levels and prices I will watch and see how his coins do.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie Glad you're back....wonder where you went....maybe lost in wine country?

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stewart was very cool to me at the 2008 ANA.

    His collection of red copper is the ultimate.

  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    he helped me find Andy when I was putting together a wheat set.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:
    Stewart was very cool to me at the 2008 ANA.

    His collection of red copper is the ultimate.

    He wasn’t nearly as cool to you as you thought - he referred to you as a “copper weeny”, but the correct expression would be “copper weenie”. 😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Maybe tag him...
    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

    Username
    STEWARTBLAYNUMIS
    Last Active
    November 16, 2019 1:26PM

    Sigh... remembering why I took the long hiatus. :D

    I said maybe...

    Starting to remember why I enjoyed the last few months...😉

    Like telling someone how much you enjoyed their vacation.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are we going to see threads bashing other high grade proof Lincoln’s for sale down the road?

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m watching five. We’ll see if pricing stays within reason 13 days from now.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • willywilly Posts: 366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not many CAC coins for you to choose from Steve.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The five I’m watching are all PCGS/CAC. While they’re in very high grades, maybe the ones I’m watching are not his???

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2022 8:44PM

    @winesteven said:
    The five I’m watching are all PCGS/CAC. While they’re in very high grades, maybe the ones I’m watching are not his???

    All of Stewart's coins are designated with the subtitle "From the #1 Red Copper Registry Set for Proof Lincoln Cents".

    EDIT: It appears that most of the coins eligible for CAC did receive the sticker.

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just checked. He has 114 coins on GC, and only 17 have a CAC. The five I’m watching are among those 17. My guess is the pricing will keep me from bidding.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:
    I just checked. He has 114 coins on GC, and only 17 have a CAC. The five I’m watching are among those 17. My guess is the pricing will keep me from bidding.

    Well again, only eighteen of his proof Lincolns are even accepted by CAC, so not a bad stickering percentage. CAC doesn't "verify" Lincoln proofs minted after 1942.

    My Roosevelt Dime Registry Set
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 4:29AM

    Very red, very beautiful, and very stickered!

    This is already at $167,500!

    It would have been nice to get "Stewart Blay Collection" on the inserts.

    Here's a question, registry set winners can get their name on inserts. If one buys a Stewart Blay coin, will PCGS add the collection name to the insert?

    Here's the other PCGS PR67+RD for comparison:

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 2:49AM

    @RedCopper Congrats on the collection and good luck on the sale!

    Will you continue to collect?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Very red, very beautiful, and very stickered!

    This is already at $167,500!

    It would have been nice to get "Stewart Blay Collection" on the inserts.

    Here's a question, registry set winners can get their name on inserts. If one buys a Stewart Blay coin, will PCGS add the collection name to the insert?

    Here's the other PCGS MS67+RD for comparison:

    To avoid possible confusion, the other 67+RD you posted is PR67+RD, not MS67+RD.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Zoins said:
    Very red, very beautiful, and very stickered!

    This is already at $167,500!

    It would have been nice to get "Stewart Blay Collection" on the inserts.

    Here's a question, registry set winners can get their name on inserts. If one buys a Stewart Blay coin, will PCGS add the collection name to the insert?

    Here's the other PCGS MS67+RD for comparison:

    To avoid possible confusion, the other 67+RD you posted is PR67+RD, not MS67+RD.

    Thanks! I've fixed it above!

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some extraordinary red cents in that set. May well see some record cent prices in this group. Cheers, RickO

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Here's a question, registry set winners can get their name on inserts. If one buys a Stewart Blay coin, will PCGS add the collection name to the insert?

    Not sure Hansen would want it there! B)

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 10:09PM

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @Zoins said:
    Here's a question, registry set winners can get their name on inserts. If one buys a Stewart Blay coin, will PCGS add the collection name to the insert?

    Not sure Hansen would want it there! B)

    This seems moot for @DLHansen as he has his own custom insert :)

    But I certainly could go for it myself!

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 10:36PM

    This discussion alone is above my head 😬 what a dream red

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 10:47PM

    An interesting thing about the GC auctions is that they don't mention Stewart's name. The lots say the following which is ambiguous as to pedigree since there will be a different person that's ranked #1 now that Stewart's set is being sold.

    From the #1 Red Copper Registry Set for Proof Lincoln Cents

    I personally would like GC to include Stewart Blay's name in the lot description pedigree for tracing purposes.

    Calling @ianrussell :)

    Private Mint News | 2010 Lincoln Reverse Finalists
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 1:57PM

    @Zoins said:
    An interesting thing about the GC auctions is that they don't mention Stewart's name. The lots say the following which is ambiguous as to pedigree since there will be a different person that's ranked #1 now that Stewart's set is being sold.

    From the #1 Red Copper Registry Set for Proof Lincoln Cents

    I personally would like GC to include Stewart Blay's name in the lot description pedigree for tracing purposes.

    Calling @ianrussell :)

    The Registry set is called "Red Copper Collection" and the User identified as STEWARTBLAYNUMI. Seems fairly unambiguous considering the set will still be listed in the All-Time Finest section of the PCGS Registry going forward. YMMV.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 5:25PM

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @Zoins said:
    An interesting thing about the GC auctions is that they don't mention Stewart's name. The lots say the following which is ambiguous as to pedigree since there will be a different person that's ranked #1 now that Stewart's set is being sold.

    From the #1 Red Copper Registry Set for Proof Lincoln Cents

    I personally would like GC to include Stewart Blay's name in the lot description pedigree for tracing purposes.

    Calling @ianrussell :)

    The Registry set is called "Red Copper Collection" and the User identified as STEWARTBLAYNUMI. Seems fairly unambiguous considering the set will still be listed in the All-Time Finest section of the PCGS Registry going forward. YMMV.

    It would be nice if the Registry Set was opened up publicly after the sale. It's private now so the coins can't be verified on the Registry Set:

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-major-sets/lincoln-cents-basic-set-proof-1909-present/1237

    @DLHansen's rankings are interesting. I wonder what the rankings will look like after the sale.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 5:28PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That vdb proof is horrible - not even fully red. I’d never bid on it

    Only those who have been around long enough will truly get this post… :D

    Well, someone has to bid on it!

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No graded MS or Proof Lincoln is actually Red (partially or fully).

    If such a Lincoln was actually Red in color, it would receive from a TPG a designation of RB or BN.

    To receive a RD designation such a Lincoln would have to be a bright Orange in actual color.

    Can someone explain the Who, What, When, Where, Why and How questions regarding the origin of the RD, RB and BN designations for copper coinage?

    Just another example of how strange the hobby is.

  • Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2022 5:52PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That vdb proof is horrible - not even fully red. I’d never bid on it

    Only those who have been around long enough will truly get this post… :D

    So @tradedollarnut is the next owner of it? Well played my man!!

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    That vdb proof is horrible - not even fully red. I’d never bid on it

    Only those who have been around long enough will truly get this post… :D

    Feel free to explain it to the rest of us... :)

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  • lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭

    All of his MPLs smashed the price guide tonight and set new records. Amazing! Congrats to Stuart.

    pcgs.com/SetRegistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-specialty-sets/lincoln-cents-basic-set-colorless-matte-proof-1909-1916/publishedset/102180
    https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2022 6:05PM

    @lusterlover said:
    All of his MPLs smashed the price guide tonight and set new records. Amazing! Congrats to Stuart.

    Congrats to @RedCopper!

    Definitely a provenance worth highlighting for the new buyers!

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m using my 20k post to point out Zions is at 32k.

    Fwiw - I had 20k about 6 years ago. Smoething happened with the counts

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2022 6:50PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    I’m using my 20k post to point out Zions is at 32k.

    Fwiw - I had 20k about 6 years ago. Smoething happened with the counts

    Okay, what a crazy coincidence is that! I have to save this posterity so here it is :)

    Not sure what happened to the post counts. I don't really keep track of them. If I did, I might stop posting :D;)

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Does anyone know if Stewart is leaving the hobby?

    Probably due to the black t-shirt shortage during the pandemic :*

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats to Stewart - strong results! Texted him yesterday, no reply.

    He has plenty of coins left to play with. :D

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So what prices were the MPL cents in Mr. Blay's collection sold for?

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2022 8:21AM

    @SanctionII said:
    So what prices were the MPL cents in Mr. Blay's collection sold for?

    1909 VDB - $366k (67+ RD - Gold CAC)
    1909 - $155k (68 RD OGH - CAC)
    1910 - $166k (68 RD - CAC)
    1911 - $41k (66+ RD - CAC)
    1912 - $22k (65 RD OGH - CAC)
    1913 - $85k (67+ RD - CAC)
    1914 - $127k (68 RD - CAC)
    1915 - $132k (67 RD OGH - CAC)
    1916 - $14k (65 RD OGH - CAC)
    1916 (dupe) - $7k (65 RD)

    All prices are rounded to nearest $1k, and include buyer's fee (12.5%).

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice haul for @RedCopper! He can now afford to get his 64RD 58 DDO Trueviewed and show it to us! B)

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2022 6:26PM

    @winesteven said:
    I’m watching five. We’ll see if pricing stays within reason 13 days from now.

    Steve

    All five way too rich for me. No bids placed.

    See my post just below this one.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2022 5:10PM

    1936 Lincoln PR66RD Satin - PCGS Price $4,500, CAC Price $5,100, sold for $23,074 incl bp.
    1937 Lincoln PR67CAM - PCGS Price $12,500, CAC Price $8,120, sold for $21,016 incl bp.
    1939 Lincoln PR67+RD - PCGS Price $6,750, sold for $9,931 incl bp.
    1940 Lincoln PR67+RD - PCGS Price $15,000, sold for $17,607 incl bp (apparently a bargain compared to the others).
    1941 Lincoln PR67RD - PCGS Price $6,000, CAC Price $5,620, sold for $12,937 with bp.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:
    1936 Lincoln PR66RD Satin - PCGS Price $4,500, CAC Price $5,100, sold for $23,074 incl bp.
    1937 Lincoln PR67CAM - PCGS Price $12,500, CAC Price $8,120, sold for $21,016 incl bp.
    1939 Lincoln PR67+RD - PCGS Price $6,750, sold for $9,931 **incl bp.
    1940 Lincoln PR67+RD - PCGS Price $15,000, **sold for $17,607     incl bp (apparently a bargain compared to the others).
    1941 Lincoln PR67RD - PCGS Price $6,000, CAC Price $5,620, sold for $12,937 with bp.

    Steve

    My condolences to the underbidder(s)........or maybe not.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

    Guess I should start cherrypicking raw proof Lincoln cents from 1936 to 1942.

  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Wow.

    Guess I should start cherrypicking raw proof Lincoln cents from 1936 to 1942.

    1951 as well. The 1951 DCAM realized $70,312.

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