[GTG—REVEALED] 1914 $10 Gold Indian—Guess the Grade **REVEALED**

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P0CKETCHANGE
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edited July 31, 2022 7:00AM in U.S. Coin Forum

(grade revealed in thread comment)

This $10 Indian earned a spot in my type set earlier this year. Just had her reholdered and TrueViewed. Take a guess if you’d like. I’ll reveal tomorrow. TV and my amateur iPhone shots below.

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Impossible to tell from those pics so I'll guess either AU58 or MS63.

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice luster, so I will say MS63..... Cheers, RickO

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • TurtleCat
    TurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64 is where I land as well

  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64?

  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sure is pretty! <3

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  • Avocet
    Avocet Posts: 275 ✭✭✭✭
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    Beautiful luster-- my guess is MS 64.

  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • fathom
    fathom Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62

  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2022 7:54AM
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    First of all, like many others I love the design and a well presented coin. IMHO too much luster loss from ?bag contact in obverse and reverse fields, esp on the in-slab pictures that followed. Also in that set of pictures - look at the cheek and upper jaw, an "U" shape pattern of possible wear down the cheek and then hooking up toward the ear. 58

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice piece... I'll say 58, but 63 wouldn't shock me... there seems to be to s of luster.

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  • Broadstruck
    Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Grading changed on this series in the last decade as I used to be able to find AU50's that looked like this now I guess that's a AU58 or even AU58+.

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63.

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Near gem if not full gem.

  • pcgscacgold
    pcgscacgold Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will admit I am not good at grading these by photo or TrueView.

    I will go with 63. Nice looking example of one of the best series to collect.

  • Pedzola
    Pedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice 58. I'm looking at an area of different color that I am interpreting as wear on the high point of the eagles wing on the reverse.

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome coin! 64

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  • scotty4449
    scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was thinking 64, but I am not the best at grading these. Nice coin!

  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • The_Dinosaur_Man
    The_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is going to be a nice one. My guess is 58.

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  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm in the 58, or quite possibly the 55+ or 58+ camp. Not shocked to see it as MS, but I really don't think it is.


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  • alaura22
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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll guess 58

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  • lordmarcovan
    lordmarcovan Posts: 45,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll guess 62+ or 63.

    This is my MS62 by way of comparison.

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  • justindan
    justindan Posts: 992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @lordmarcovan said:
    I'll guess 62+ or 63.

    This is my MS62 by way of comparison.

    That 1911 might end up a higher grade if sent in for the reconsideration quarterly special :)

  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • erwindoc
    erwindoc Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Another vote for 58

  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2022 7:21AM
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    GRADE REVEALED BELOW

    Alright folks, here's the guess distribution. Notably, the majority pegged the coin as mint state, and there were an equal number of guesses for 64 as there were 58. A few who said 58 thought it could be in a 63 holder (I used the lower of the two in that case).



    The coin is graded AU58 by PCGS, with CAC validation. I picked it up from David Kahn's booth at Winter FUN. It's an unbelievable AU coin, IMO—the luster is booming which the photos pick up to some extent. I knew I was leaving with it as soon as it was in my hand. Kudos to all those that got it correct!



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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Paying 58 money for that coin is a very good deal.

  • Weather11am
    Weather11am Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭
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    That’s awesome!

    At au58, that’s got to be approaching a gold bean.

  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    David Kahn is a great guy. 👍

  • scotty4449
    scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome 58 Indian! Love David Kahn, I have purchased a few item from him.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is a great AU58, You have to send it in for reconsideration, it deserves a better grade
    Good luck and congrats

  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @alaura22 said:
    That is a great AU58, You have to send it in for reconsideration, it deserves a better grade
    Good luck and congrats

    Thanks! Yeah, I maybe should have sent it along with a couple other reconsiderations last month (one of the two was bumped up a full point). Will definitely keep in mind for the next batch in that category.

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My guess inspected in hand most of us guessing MS grades would have said AU58 or 58+.

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I said 58 but wouldn't be shocked by a higher grade...

    For many of the Type coins I collect, I'd much prefer a clean 58 with detectable wear than a "baggy" looking 62 or 63 that's technically mint state... the OP's example is a beautiful piece that fits this description perfectly. Kudos!!

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