I would like to think that Coin World’s Collectors Clearinghouse page contributed a little bit to the popularity of errors, along with Alan Herbert’s work in the various Krause Publications.
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@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
Apples and oranges. You buy a car because you want it to take you places. If it’s not perfect it is less useful if not useless. Coin manufacturing, especially if late, is state of the art and they do everything possible to make everything that gets released perfect. Major errors getting made is rare, but getting past quality control os even rarer. Combine that with each one being unique and possibly quite intriguing to look at, and you get something rare and appealing. Even for non errors, people collect higher and rarer dates and grades because there are fewer coins like them. I get that errors aren’t everyone’s cup of tea (I think they are neat but am not interested in owning most) but I certainly understand why they’re collectible.
Please keep posting your coins. Many of us enjoy seeing them. There are many threads here that don’t interest me so I don’t waste time reading them. And I certainly don’t waste time commenting or criticizing them. Maybe others should take note.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
I first saw this coin listed from Al's Coins. Then I saw it on his table in Long Beach but did not buy it and regretted it. He has long since passed away, RIP.
I ended buying the same coin from someone else a few years later. It's still one of my favorite extremely rare coins.
I had a 2009-S Zachary Taylor dollar with this same type of error. The struck-in scrap was about the same size and ran from 12:00 to 6:00. I sold it raw to Fred back in 2012 and regrettably I have no photos of it. Fred doesn't either (i asked). Does anybody know what became of this coin? I have always regretted selling it and did not know of another one until I saw this one.
@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
It's worth noting that the most expensive error coins are ones that don't look like they are errors!
@Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
@Zoins said Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
But just as amazing is the price that a 1944 Steel Cent brought!
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FWIW, ErrorsOnCoins is well within the rules, I believe. No price, nor mention of a sale, and if sold later, elsewhere, well, that’s the way it’s supposed to be done, right?
@Byers said: @Zoins said Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
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@Byers said:
Al Levy (Al’s Coins) was a CPA and an error coin dealer. He set up at the Long Beach coin shows. He was one of the original contributors and consultants for MINT ERROR NEWS, 20 years ago. His extensive articles in MINT ERROR NEWS tracked many types of error coin sales and prices realized:
“Is it still true that there are only two known on wrong planchets?”
That article for the cover story of Mint Error News was written twelve years ago in 2010. Since then I have handled a Washington Presidential Dollar struck on a Cent blank. And possibly there are one or two more Presidential Dollar off metals known somewhere.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@ErrorsOnCoins.... Please keep posting your error coins.... Although I do not collect them, I really enjoy seeing them and understanding how and why they happened. Cheers, RickO
@CaptHenway said:
I would like to think that Coin World’s Collectors Clearinghouse page contributed a little bit to the popularity of errors, along with Alan Herbert’s work in the various Krause Publications.
Clearinghouse was always the first article I looked at in the 70's. Like the centerfold in Playboy.
@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
Apples and oranges. You buy a car because you want it to take you places. If it’s not perfect it is less useful if not useless. Coin manufacturing, especially if late, is state of the art and they do everything possible to make everything that gets released perfect. Major errors getting made is rare, but getting past quality control os even rarer. Combine that with each one being unique and possibly quite intriguing to look at, and you get something rare and appealing. Even for non errors, people collect higher and rarer dates and grades because there are fewer coins like them. I get that errors aren’t everyone’s cup of tea (I think they are neat but am not interested in owning most) but I certainly understand why they’re collectible.
And another, nobody cares if a dented cars comes out of the factory as long as it is safe.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
I first saw this coin listed from Al's Coins. Then I saw it on his table in Long Beach but did not buy it and regretted it. He has long since passed away, RIP.
I ended buying the same coin from someone else a few years later. It's still one of my favorite extremely rare coins.
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I had a 2009-S Zachary Taylor dollar with this same type of error. The struck-in scrap was about the same size and ran from 12:00 to 6:00. I sold it raw to Fred back in 2012 and regrettably I have no photos of it. Fred doesn't either (i asked). Does anybody know what became of this coin? I have always regretted selling it and did not know of another one until I saw this one.
Thanks for that tidbit of information. I have not seen that coin. Could you imagine a complete set of these which most likely is impossible.
@RegistryCoin said:
FWIW, ErrorsOnCoins is well within the rules, I believe. No price, nor mention of a sale, and if sold later, elsewhere, well, that’s the way it’s supposed to be done, right?
Any thread that gets RegistryCoin to post is more than worth it to me!
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@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
Apples and oranges. You buy a car because you want it to take you places. If it’s not perfect it is less useful if not useless. Coin manufacturing, especially if late, is state of the art and they do everything possible to make everything that gets released perfect. Major errors getting made is rare, but getting past quality control os even rarer. Combine that with each one being unique and possibly quite intriguing to look at, and you get something rare and appealing. Even for non errors, people collect higher and rarer dates and grades because there are fewer coins like them. I get that errors aren’t everyone’s cup of tea (I think they are neat but am not interested in owning most) but I certainly understand why they’re collectible.
And another, nobody cares if a dented cars comes out of the factory as long as it is safe.
Deliberately
Chill out dude, I never said that you or anyone else couldn’t or shouldn’t collect error coins. I said that I don’t personally care to spend my money on them.
@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
It's worth noting that the most expensive error coins are ones that don't look like they are errors!
@Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
For sure the most valuable error coins do not look like error coins.
This is actually fine by me as I have no desire to buy error coins that do not look like error coins.
I need big bold eye appeal.
While others are chasing the most expensive of error coins that IMO have lesser eye appeal, I am extremely happy her I am at
Holy cow, I did not know that coin existed. That's why I love the error coin market. Weekly I see major error coins that I never knew existed. Such an exciting field of numismatics.
@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
It's worth noting that the most expensive error coins are ones that don't look like they are errors!
@Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
For sure the most valuable error coins do not look like error coins.
This is actually fine by me as I have no desire to buy error coins that do not look like error coins.
I need big bold eye appeal.
While others are chasing the most expensive of error coins that IMO have lesser eye appeal, I am extremely happy her I am at
It seems like there are different definitions of eye appeal at play.
It's great that you have your definition of eye appeal, but I wouldn't discount the eye appeal of the coins you discount.
For example, Bob Simpson has paid over $1m for individual error coins and he says he specifically chases eye appeal. I'd also venture many collectors would say that the gold Indian Head Cents and Buffalo Nickel have tons of eye appeal!
@GRANDAM said:
I have never understood the fascination with error coins.
To me it is like I go to buy a new car and it is an error because part of the hood or fender is missing.
They ran out of steel when stamping the part out but let it go tru the assembly process and it ends up on a finished car.
It is rare,,,,, it is one of a Kind,,,,,, would I buy it,,,,,,,,,,,, let alone pay several times the normal cost for it because of the "error"
Well the answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!!!!
But,,,,,,,,, to each his own,,,,,,,,,, if you want to spend your money on an error coin then GO FOR IT.
It's worth noting that the most expensive error coins are ones that don't look like they are errors!
@Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
For sure the most valuable error coins do not look like error coins.
This is actually fine by me as I have no desire to buy error coins that do not look like error coins.
I need big bold eye appeal.
While others are chasing the most expensive of error coins that IMO have lesser eye appeal, I am extremely happy her I am at
It seems like there are different definitions of eye appeal at play.
It's great that you have your definition of eye appeal, but I wouldn't discount the eye appeal of the coins you discount.
For example, Bob Simpson has paid over $1m for individual error coins and he says he specifically chases eye appeal. I'd also venture many collectors would say that the gold Indian Head Cents and Buffalo Nickel have tons of eye appeal!
Zions, the errors are super cool for sure.
Of course the Gold IHC has amazing eye appeal.
I guess the main reason that I discount these exceptional error coins is that fact they those types of coins are way, way out of my price range. I will leave those for Mike along with the risk / reward that come along with them.
I only research and buy in a certain price range that I feel comfortable in. I do not want too much risk built into one coin.
I have been moving up the price scale so maybe one day
This thread is leading me to wonder if I should open and inspect the dozens of Mint sealed rolls of these dollars I'm storing somewhere? They will most likely never be anything more than face value.
EOC - please keep posting your interesting finds.
I've always been curious though - why don't the original owners of all these high mint-state, off-metal errors give them a more "circulated" look - so as to not seem so intentionally made? (Mint mischief?)
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
Have you run it by Jon?
Actually, I think I did show it to Jon at Long Beach before being graded. He agreed with Fred
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
Have you run it by Jon?
Actually, I think I did show it to Jon at Long Beach before being graded. He agreed with Fred
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
Have you run it by Jon?
Actually, I think I did show it to Jon at Long Beach before being graded. He agreed with Fred
I simply disagree with both of them
Did you crack it out before asking?
Yes, it was sealed in the mint plastic pouch but I did cut it out to photograph and submit the coin to PCGS. You can not get a good photograph thru the mint sealed plastic.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
Have you run it by Jon?
Don’t play that game.
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@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
Have you run it by Jon?
Don’t play that game.
I don’t consider it a game as these are opinions and there has been a changing of the guard. PCGS even offers an official reconsideration service.
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I think Fred is great, and I never said otherwise, but an opinion is one opinion. For grades, PCGS and CAC both use more than one grader with valid opinions.
Are you saying no other opinion is valid?
For an example of changing policy coinciding with staff, remember when PCGS wouldn't slab Dan Carr's 1964 Peace Dollars even though they were listed in Krause and PCGS said they would slab everything in Krause? Then a management change happened and now they are slabbing these Krause-listed pieces.
“ I don’t consider it a game as these are opinions and there has been a changing of the guard. PCGS even offers an official reconsideration service.”
Zoins asked Chris a fair question. Chris fully responded.
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Keep up posting your error coins @ErrorsOnCoins.
Though I do not collect them, I do enjoy viewing them.
I don't care if you keep them or sell them.
The choice is always yours.
Wayne
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I would like to think that Coin World’s Collectors Clearinghouse page contributed a little bit to the popularity of errors, along with Alan Herbert’s work in the various Krause Publications.
Apples and oranges. You buy a car because you want it to take you places. If it’s not perfect it is less useful if not useless. Coin manufacturing, especially if late, is state of the art and they do everything possible to make everything that gets released perfect. Major errors getting made is rare, but getting past quality control os even rarer. Combine that with each one being unique and possibly quite intriguing to look at, and you get something rare and appealing. Even for non errors, people collect higher and rarer dates and grades because there are fewer coins like them. I get that errors aren’t everyone’s cup of tea (I think they are neat but am not interested in owning most) but I certainly understand why they’re collectible.
The OP coin is rare because of the missing edge lettering, right? 😂
Please keep posting your coins. Many of us enjoy seeing them. There are many threads here that don’t interest me so I don’t waste time reading them. And I certainly don’t waste time commenting or criticizing them. Maybe others should take note.
I had a 2009-S Zachary Taylor dollar with this same type of error. The struck-in scrap was about the same size and ran from 12:00 to 6:00. I sold it raw to Fred back in 2012 and regrettably I have no photos of it. Fred doesn't either (i asked). Does anybody know what became of this coin? I have always regretted selling it and did not know of another one until I saw this one.
It's worth noting that the most expensive error coins are ones that don't look like they are errors!
@Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
https://minterrornews.com/news-6-22-21-heritage-highest-prices.html
@Zoins said Byers posted a recent MintErrorNews article which features this Extreme Rarity Presidential coin. It was enough convince Bob Simpson to collect it, was sold for $840,000 and is over $1 million in the PCGS Price Guide now!
https://minterrornews.com/news-6-22-21-heritage-highest-prices.html
Yes!
But just as amazing is the price that a 1944 Steel Cent brought!
FWIW, ErrorsOnCoins is well within the rules, I believe. No price, nor mention of a sale, and if sold later, elsewhere, well, that’s the way it’s supposed to be done, right?
That's a great example too!
It's great to see all these Presidential error coins with so much demand.
@Zoins said:
“ It's great to see all these Presidential error coins with so much demand.”
Yes!
This Presidential Dollar off metal is one of my favorites and was a cover coin for Mint Error News Magazine:
https://minterrornews.com/issue32.pdf
I was just looking through issue 32, only 2 issues earlier, and there were articles by Al along with his ad.
Great article Mike!
First double strucks, and now wrong planchet errors! These Presidential Dollars are a real treat.
Is it still true that there are only two known on wrong planchets?
@Zoins posted:
And asked:
“Is it still true that there are only two known on wrong planchets?”
That article for the cover story of Mint Error News was written twelve years ago in 2010. Since then I have handled a Washington Presidential Dollar struck on a Cent blank. And possibly there are one or two more Presidential Dollar off metals known somewhere.
Please keep posting EOC, I find these fascinating.
Keep postings your coins! I’m not an Errooor Collector, but like seeing whats out there.
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Much more interesting than just the "A and B". Or the plain ole "Missing/Doubled Letters!
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Clearinghouse was always the first article I looked at in the 70's. Like the centerfold in Playboy.
Very good discussion. I have a Facebook account for more than 10 years but I never use it. Maybe I should start using it.
And another, nobody cares if a dented cars comes out of the factory as long as it is safe.
Deliberately
Thanks for that tidbit of information. I have not seen that coin. Could you imagine a complete set of these which most likely is impossible.
I do have one more similar posted below.
can you see a thickness to that struckthrough blue plastic? it looks like tape to me.
Not really as it is slabbed. It does look thicker than tape as you can see the struck thru is kinda deep.
Last time I examined this coin, it does look like plastic and not tape.
Any thread that gets RegistryCoin to post is more than worth it to me!
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Chill out dude, I never said that you or anyone else couldn’t or shouldn’t collect error coins. I said that I don’t personally care to spend my money on them.
For sure the most valuable error coins do not look like error coins.
This is actually fine by me as I have no desire to buy error coins that do not look like error coins.
I need big bold eye appeal.
While others are chasing the most expensive of error coins that IMO have lesser eye appeal, I am extremely happy her I am at
I like seeing the errors ... 1 of 1 is always a cool coin ... keep them coming !!
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Holy cow, I did not know that coin existed. That's why I love the error coin market. Weekly I see major error coins that I never knew existed. Such an exciting field of numismatics.
Mike, thank you for posting that awesome coin.
It seems like there are different definitions of eye appeal at play.
It's great that you have your definition of eye appeal, but I wouldn't discount the eye appeal of the coins you discount.
For example, Bob Simpson has paid over $1m for individual error coins and he says he specifically chases eye appeal. I'd also venture many collectors would say that the gold Indian Head Cents and Buffalo Nickel have tons of eye appeal!
Zions, the errors are super cool for sure.
Of course the Gold IHC has amazing eye appeal.
I guess the main reason that I discount these exceptional error coins is that fact they those types of coins are way, way out of my price range. I will leave those for Mike along with the risk / reward that come along with them.
I only research and buy in a certain price range that I feel comfortable in. I do not want too much risk built into one coin.
I have been moving up the price scale so maybe one day
Found my photos! Sorry for the quality, these are from 2012.
MarkKelley, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is an exceptional coin and I hope Fred put that in a double holder.
I would buy that at the right price for sure.
Just Wow!
Amazing errors. @ErrorsOnCoins has amazing inventory. Sometimes I browse through your ebay/website just for fun. Love seeing them.
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*Turns out this does not qualify. I just got it back in hand and it straight graded with no error.
This is not nearly as dramatic as your struck through/retained, but I believe it too qualifies.
Retained part emphasized:
This thread is leading me to wonder if I should open and inspect the dozens of Mint sealed rolls of these dollars I'm storing somewhere? They will most likely never be anything more than face value.
EOC - please keep posting your interesting finds.
I've always been curious though - why don't the original owners of all these high mint-state, off-metal errors give them a more "circulated" look - so as to not seem so intentionally made? (Mint mischief?)
Agree.
Keep 'em coming. The ability to be interested in something and learn about it is what makes one a numismatist. Instead of just a collector or hoarder.
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Here is a very cool presidential error coin that I bought raw in a sealed mint set. I tried to convince Fred to label this coin as "struck thru wood" many times. He did not agree and labeled the coin "struck thru object". I am convinced that it is struck thru a hard wood by the woodgrain pattern. Still very happy with this coin which I liberated from Europe which is a weird place to find a US error coin.
That's Zachary Taylor, rattling his saber again!
Have you run it by Jon?
Actually, I think I did show it to Jon at Long Beach before being graded. He agreed with Fred
I simply disagree with both of them
Did you crack it out before asking?
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Yes, it was sealed in the mint plastic pouch but I did cut it out to photograph and submit the coin to PCGS. You can not get a good photograph thru the mint sealed plastic.
Don’t play that game.
I don’t consider it a game as these are opinions and there has been a changing of the guard. PCGS even offers an official reconsideration service.
Don’t go dissing Fred.
You're reading way too much into this.
I think Fred is great, and I never said otherwise, but an opinion is one opinion. For grades, PCGS and CAC both use more than one grader with valid opinions.
Are you saying no other opinion is valid?
For an example of changing policy coinciding with staff, remember when PCGS wouldn't slab Dan Carr's 1964 Peace Dollars even though they were listed in Krause and PCGS said they would slab everything in Krause? Then a management change happened and now they are slabbing these Krause-listed pieces.
@Zoins said:
“ I don’t consider it a game as these are opinions and there has been a changing of the guard. PCGS even offers an official reconsideration service.”
Zoins asked Chris a fair question. Chris fully responded.
Keep up posting your error coins @ErrorsOnCoins.
Though I do not collect them, I do enjoy viewing them.
I don't care if you keep them or sell them.
The choice is always yours.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...