At least it wasn't taped to the paper towel or something (Pricey newp) UPDATE: Grade in! PCGS 45

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DelawareDoons
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edited March 1, 2022 3:30PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I always enjoy seeing how people who are inexperienced with shipping coins choose to ship stuff. :sunglasses: Can't complain, coin is DANDY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKRuzAAPYHY

"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

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  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've received amateur shipments before, from "tape happy" sellers. I hate that. Especially when it is currency, or worse yet, stamps.

    PS:
    Show the coin some more.

  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    is it real?

  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @davewesen said:
    is it real?

    Haha yes, very real.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @dcarr said:
    I've received amateur shipments before, from "tape happy" sellers. I hate that. Especially when it is currency, or worse yet, stamps.

    PS:
    Show the coin some more.

    Taking more pics in a minute.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice "crusty" !

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Interesting coin - shipment wrapping aside - die cracks and crusty. Cheers, RickO

  • TennesseeDave
    TennesseeDave Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thats how 220+ year old silver should look. Just curious about the mark on the wing above the L in Pluribus.

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  • SaorAlba
    SaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've seen terrible packaging like loose coins and banknotes in envelopes from sellers I expected would do better and then I have seen fiendishly creative packaging from sellers in Russia because they are so used to having to pack to prevent tempting theft.

  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2021 8:02AM
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    When I used to sell on eBay I would put the slab in an envelope and tape it to the inside of the box behind the label. Nothing would move or rattle and the box felt empty which I thought was a good theft deterrent. I'm sure some of the recipients thought the box was empty when they got it.

  • BucketHead
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    @SaorAlba said:
    I've seen terrible packaging like loose coins

    I’ve seen this from the US Mint.

  • jesbroken
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    Love the shield. Such a beautiful coin.
    Jim


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  • davewesen
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    Do you always record opening of expensive packages? That seems like a good idea, although as of yet I have never had an empty or switched delivery.

  • DelawareDoons
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    @davewesen said:
    Do you always record opening of expensive packages? That seems like a good idea, although as of yet I have never had an empty or switched delivery.

    $3k+ yes, I do. Under, nope.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Meaty and crusty, unusual to see bust dollars with both attributes!

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  • with a packaging job like that you can tell the seller has no clue, you're lucky they didn't "shine it up" for you.

  • DelawareDoons
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    @Walkerguy21D said:
    Meaty and crusty, unusual to see bust dollars with both attributes!

    Yeah the price was kind of steep for it raw but I saw a lot of potential in the pics so I grabbed it hoping for the best. I am thrilled with it in hand and think I got it for a fantastic price.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • fishteeth
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    Great looking surfaces. I wish more 18th century coins looked like that. Is there any smoothing of graffiti above the United on the reverse looks like something may have been smoothed there

  • braddick
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    Neat coin.
    Is that a dig on the wing (Above the PLU)?

  • DelawareDoons
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    @fishteeth said:
    Great looking surfaces. I wish more 18th century coins looked like that. Is there any smoothing of graffiti above the United on the reverse looks like something may have been smoothed there

    No, the surfaces are completely original, as far as i can tell. Pretty remarkable. > @braddick said:

    Neat coin.
    Is that a dig on the wing (Above the PLU)?

    Yeah, thats my biggest concern with it. But given how its toned over and blends very well, I'm guessing it's contemporary and will be accepted.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Kyle
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    @braddick said:

    Neat coin.
    Is that a dig on the wing (Above the PLU)?

    Yeah, thats my biggest concern with it. But given how its toned over and blends very well, I'm guessing it's contemporary and will be accepted.

    I agree, I don't think it will be an issue. It's a well-hidden mark.

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  • mirabela
    mirabela Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That looks like a wonderful coin from here.

    mirabela
  • braddick
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    @Kyle said:
    @braddick said:

    Neat coin.
    Is that a dig on the wing (Above the PLU)?

    Yeah, that's my biggest concern with it. But given how it's toned over and blends very well, I'm guessing it's contemporary and will be accepted.

    I agree; I don't think it will be an issue. It's a well-hidden mark.

    I agree. My only and single concern would be the slightly round the coin is from being dropped on its edge- as seen on the reverse at 2:00 and conversely on the obverse just an inch to the right of the date.
    Wholesome and highly detailed coin, for sure.

  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @braddick said:

    @Kyle said:
    @braddick said:

    Neat coin.
    Is that a dig on the wing (Above the PLU)?

    Yeah, that's my biggest concern with it. But given how it's toned over and blends very well, I'm guessing it's contemporary and will be accepted.

    I agree; I don't think it will be an issue. It's a well-hidden mark.

    I agree. My only and single concern would be the slightly round the coin is from being dropped on its edge- as seen on the reverse at 2:00 and conversely on the obverse just an inch to the right of the date.
    Wholesome and highly detailed coin, for sure.

    This was also my biggest concern from images, but in-hand, it doesn't really affect the edge much at all, though visually distracting. I think it's a really nice, original 45.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • asheland
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    Very cool.

  • originalisbest
    originalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
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    AMAZING original surfaces. Actually, the seller could have done a lot worse -- so being amateur coin packers, I find no fault on their part. Congrats on the grade and that amazing coin! I hope to have an example of that quality one day. :smile:

  • originalisbest
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    I have to say, I've rarely seen a coin of that vintage that so perfectly goes with the username I chose long ago. ;) Congrats again!

  • jesbroken
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    About 30 years ago, I purchased a $5 Hawaii Note. It didn't come for about a week and when it did it looked like a small book might be packaged. Sure enough it was in an old 2nd or 3rd grade Spelling book. Just stuck in about the middle of the book. Now that was weird. Don't know what ever happened to the book, but a most ingenious way to package the note as it was well protected.
    Jim


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  • LanceNewmanOCC
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    45 is pretty good considering the many rim issues.

    nice newp and thanks for sharing the grade!

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  • Kyle
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    Congrats! It's a great looking original coin.

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  • originalisbest
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    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    45 is pretty good considering the many rim issues.

    nice newp and thanks for sharing the grade!

    Rim issues, meh; given the age many such are forgiven -- and the surfaces are so impressive, no worries. Even the gouge on the eagle's wing is of little note, as it's blended in so perfectly over the decades. If it were shiny and new like a bright staple scratch, that'd be another thing, and thankfully it's not!

  • vulcanize
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    @dcarr said:
    I've received amateur shipments before, from "tape happy" sellers. I hate that. Especially when it is currency, or worse yet, stamps.

    PS:
    Show the coin some more.

    I would rather it be taped well and good than have the coin escape through a tear in the envelope that could happen while in the sorting machine etc.
    Case in point https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1072042/well-that-is-a-p-sser :)

  • jayPem
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    Beauty.

  • NumisOxide
    NumisOxide Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice job!

  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice job on the coin pickup and guessing the correct grade.

    Congrats, Donato

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    Nice to hear a good success story-- beautiful.

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    No other opinion matters as much to you as mine...right ? Well here it is.......👍

  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Congrats. Is the Trueview up yet?

  • DelawareDoons
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    @Connecticoin said:
    Congrats. Is the Trueview up yet?

    Actually just came here to post it. A shade dark but very nice pics.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • davewesen
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    nice, was this a regular level submission?

  • DelawareDoons
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    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Connecticoin
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    edited March 3, 2022 9:16AM
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    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

  • davewesen
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    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

    I am looking at my last submission form, and it seems value max for regular is now $2500.
    If they decide after the grade the value should be $5000, they are going to charge me express fee of $65 for that coin?

    That is down to the level where even most gold double eagles would have to go express

  • DelawareDoons
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    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

    They started maybe 2 years ago? Definitely happens more frequently today, very annoying.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Connecticoin
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    @davewesen said:

    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

    I am looking at my last submission form, and it seems value max for regular is now $2500.
    If they decide after the grade the value should be $5000, they are going to charge me express fee of $65 for that coin?

    That is down to the level where even most gold double eagles would have to go express

    I think it is a percent of the value over the limit, which is usually less than the difference, at least it was for me.

  • stawick
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    edited March 3, 2022 12:30PM
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    @davewesen said:

    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

    I am looking at my last submission form, and it seems value max for regular is now $2500.
    If they decide after the grade the value should be $5000, they are going to charge me express fee of $65 for that coin?

    That is down to the level where even most gold double eagles would have to go express

    I've posted before somewhere with my gripe, given the latest costs of the annual gold and silver eagles, I really wish they'd change their tiers -

    • Modern Value - $500 limit (up from $300)
    • Modern - $5000 or at least $3500 (up from $2500).
  • Connecticoin
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    @DelawareDoons said:

    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @davewesen said:
    nice, was this a regular level submission?

    It was not.

    They likely would have charged extra if it was on a regular sub ($3,000 max). I had a couple economy coins upcharged because they graded higher than I expected. PCGS must have started doing this recently, as it never happened to me before.

    They started maybe 2 years ago? Definitely happens more frequently today, very annoying.

    It's a double-edge sword - you are happy about the higher grade, but annoyed by the extra $.

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