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This raw LowBall 1968-D Kennedy half dollar is auctioning at a crazy price. . .

braddickbraddick Posts: 25,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

I put this on my watch list and, while checking this morning, was a bit surprised at the price (with a few hours to go). I hope the LowBall craze hasn't gone nuts, or I will be pushed out from collecting these (after having done so for over 30 years).

Your thoughts?
AUCTION:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/403334868305?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That reverse looks really nice.

    Are we in a bubble?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can’t read date

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that's nuts! I have a couple like that I got from from CRH. Maybe I should take a shot at listing them!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow...First of all, I would not be interested in low ball coins.... Though I realize there is a collector segment that seek these. So I assume it can only be those who drive the price so high.... Collectors will collect - and pay the price. Cheers, RickO

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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mr Yuk award winner.

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a Kennedy low ball set.
    All are PCGS slabbed coins.
    I only buy them at a low price.
    I would not buy a raw coin.
    Too easy to create.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Can't read date

    The last digit is slightly visible- at least the top half. That, and the fact it's a 40% planchet and the mintmark placement confirms the date.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m a huge lowball fan, but this is flat ridiculous!

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,471 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thats insane

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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like my low-ball unslabbed pre 04 Morgans. Too many in the wild waiting to come out to spend a premium for them.

    However, since modern Kennedy's hardly circulate, this coin seems to possibly have benefitted from artificial wear. La Verne Cal. Home of the late Don Hauser and Coin Depot. Lot of smart coin guys from around that vicinity.

    Have a nice day
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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    I put this on my watch list and, while checking this morning, was a bit surprised at the price (with a few hours to go). I hope the LowBall craze hasn't gone nuts, or I will be pushed out from collecting these (after having done so for over 30 years).

    Your thoughts?
    AUCTION:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/403334868305?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649

    Maybe now is the time for you to sell. ;)

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2021 3:22PM

    What a bunch of dunces lol.

    I call the attack of the end users.

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure that would earn a PO 01. Someone would be very upset to buy that and get a details grade or a FA 02. Believe it or not, I find it suspicious that it's not slabbed.

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    ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So how many years would this 1968 half dollar have to circulate in order to receive this much wear? Silver was already being plucked out of circulation at the time this coin was struck. I’m sorry, but there is no way that this coin circulated in commerce to get this worn. I haven’t received even a post-1971 half dollar in change in ages, and whenever I did it was always a high grade example.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Closed at $294.

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:
    I'm not sure that would earn a PO 01. Someone would be very upset to buy that and get a details grade or a FA 02. Believe it or not, I find it suspicious that it's not slabbed.

    There are a lot of raw low balls that I think are ok. Many people don't think they are worth slabbing. You really need to be into low balls to care right now.

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2021 8:34PM

    The lowball registry set craze has caused the pricing curves to reverse somewhere around AG3 and lower. A low grade (-below VG) is actually quite rare for Kennedy half dollars, but $294?? WOwee! I have never seen a more worn 40% Kennedy half dollar. Personally, I don't see much value in lowball coins. I am glad that the low ball registry exists thou, Some of my coins have gained a lot of value since it began. :):)

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone ever put these lowball coins in a rock tumbler? I'm sure it could be done to create a coin worn that much. I dont have one and I didnt see any videos on YouTube either.

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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Has anyone ever put these lowball coins in a rock tumbler? I'm sure it could be done to create a coin worn that much. I dont have one and I didnt see any videos on YouTube either.

    In my opinion, using a rock tumbler or vibratory mill to simulate wear wouldn't be too challenging. Start with an aggressive media (to save time) then move to softer medias. The trick, I believe, is toning/patinating them so they look natural. Notice the staining on the coin in the OP. One advantage is that worn coins can have all kinds of stains and toning (just look at your change). Most experienced numismatists can spot AT on high end coins, but what about the characteristics of AT vs NT on the low grades

    I'm not going to be critical if people want to collect low balls, I just think that fraudulent examples exist (especially clad issues) and additional study is needed to determine the characteristics of artificial wear and AT. Just my opinion, as I have no hard data to back it up.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Has anyone ever put these lowball coins in a rock tumbler? I'm sure it could be done to create a coin worn that much. I dont have one and I didnt see any videos on YouTube either.

    In my opinion, using a rock tumbler or vibratory mill to simulate wear wouldn't be too challenging. Start with an aggressive media (to save time) then move to softer medias. The trick, I believe, is toning/patinating them so they look natural. Notice the staining on the coin in the OP. One advantage is that worn coins can have all kinds of stains and toning (just look at your change). Most experienced numismatists can spot AT on high end coins, but what about the characteristics of AT vs NT on the low grades

    I'm not going to be critical if people want to collect low balls, I just think that fraudulent examples exist (especially clad issues) and additional study is needed to determine the characteristics of artificial wear and AT. Just my opinion, as I have no hard data to back it up.

    They would probably be fairly bright and shiny after all the tumbling media. Good point!

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Has anyone ever put these lowball coins in a rock tumbler? I'm sure it could be done to create a coin worn that much. I dont have one and I didnt see any videos on YouTube either.

    These get flagged for artificial wear since the rims generally have more wear than the center areas.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Has anyone ever put these lowball coins in a rock tumbler? I'm sure it could be done to create a coin worn that much. I dont have one and I didnt see any videos on YouTube either.

    These get flagged for artificial wear since the rims generally have more wear than the center areas.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cropped photos for posterity.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm surprised it didn't bring more.

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @daltex said:
    I'm not sure that would earn a PO 01. Someone would be very upset to buy that and get a details grade or a FA 02. Believe it or not, I find it suspicious that it's not slabbed.

    There are a lot of raw low balls that I think are ok. Many people don't think they are worth slabbing. You really need to be into low balls to care right now.

    I get that, but when you have a coin that is worth $3 unless it is a genuine PO 01, it's hard to convince people to take that chance. If it sell for $300 raw with all the questions, how much money was the seller leaving on the table if legit? $1000, $2000, more?

    Has a (slabbed) PO 01 40% Kennedy ever sold?

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crazy price.

    No chance that I would do it.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not my lowball area but if you like it go for it. Rather spend that kind of money than $18 million on a 1933 $20 gold piece. But to each his own. If everyone collected the same thing coin shows would be pretty dull

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is one of my lowball Kennedys.
    It has a pop of 1 with none in a lower grade.
    I paid $9.03 for it including the shipping cost.
    My set is currently ranked #3 on active sets.


    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2021 11:16AM

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    I'm surprised it didn't bring more.

    It might have with larger, better photos, IMO.

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