Is there any way to tell what is in this mint box from the label?

coinbuf · October 5, 2021 12:20PM

I've had this for many years and do not recall what is in this box, most likely a mint or proof set but just wondering if anyone knows from the codes on the label.

Yes I know I could open it to find out.

TurtleCat · October 5, 2021 12:45PM

I don’t think so. While delivery numbers can be reused after a time you can always lookup the delivery tracking code for timeframe and check your mint order history to see what it likely was.

gumby1234 · October 5, 2021 1:16PM

Just open it. You don't have to open the mint packaging.

Inditonka · October 5, 2021 1:19PM

Go to order history and go thru your prior orders until you find the one that has this tracking number listed.

Jzyskowski1 · October 5, 2021 1:34PM

coinbuf · October 5, 2021 1:48PM

Thanks for the suggestions, unfortunately I cannot look up old records. I had to setup a new account several years ago because my account was originally setup with a now inactive email which I could not remember the password for, and with the email inactive no way to have the old password sent or changed. And I have not ordered anything on the new account.

Again thanks for the ideas, not a big deal just thought I'd see if anyone knew the codes.

MetroD · October 5, 2021 2:35PM

Have you tried calling the Mint?
Perhaps they can search the 'order history' on your original account via the tracking number.

pointfivezero · October 5, 2021 2:42PM

@MetroD said:
Have you tried calling the Mint?
Perhaps they can search the 'order history' on your original account via the tracking number.

True - In our Warehouse Management System, we could query the Wave number and provide the results.

Lazybones · October 5, 2021 2:46PM

Thank you for entering me in your generous giveaway!

ricko · October 6, 2021 4:56AM

I never have the problem of unopened boxes... I always open them immediately. Even when I purchased unopened GSA CC Morgans.... (from a forum member)... I just had to open them... I am like a kid at Christmas when it comes to packages. Cheers, RickO

TurtleCat · October 6, 2021 5:56AM

Well, looking up the tracking number would give you a timeframe (unless the number got reused). So you could narrow down the possibilities by what was for sale at the time and it may jog your memory.

tcollects · October 6, 2021 6:04AM

I know why you didn't open the box...

MetroD · October 6, 2021 6:09AM

@TurtleCat said:
Well, looking up the tracking number would give you a timeframe (unless the number got reused). So you could narrow down the possibilities by what was for sale at the time and it may jog your memory.

Had the same thought ...

Link

derryb · October 6, 2021 6:13AM

@coinbuf said:
Thanks for the suggestions, unfortunately I cannot look up old records. I had to setup a new account several years ago because my account was originally setup with a now inactive email which I could not remember the password for, and with the email inactive no way to have the old password sent or changed. And I have not ordered anything on the new account.

Again thanks for the ideas, not a big deal just thought I'd see if anyone knew the codes.

your old email confirmations show tracking numbers.

MWallace · October 6, 2021 6:16AM

@MetroD said:

@TurtleCat said:
Well, looking up the tracking number would give you a timeframe (unless the number got reused). So you could narrow down the possibilities by what was for sale at the time and it may jog your memory.

Had the same thought ...

Link

@coinbuf

So you haven't received it yet. It will be mailed out soon.
This is Twilight Zone stuff.

gumby1234 · October 6, 2021 7:20AM

@tcollects said:
I know why you didn't open the box...

And here i thought the SBA dollar was ugly. Wow that is 10 times worse.

jmlanzaf · October 6, 2021 7:22AM

@gumby1234 said:
Just open it. You don't have to open the mint packaging.

First Strike eligibility would be lost.

gumby1234 · October 6, 2021 7:27AM

It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Jzyskowski1 · October 6, 2021 7:41AM

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Depends on which side of the coin you’re on😉
Buying or selling

1630Boston · October 6, 2021 7:45AM

used to be able to buy these for a buck
they would help

thebeav · October 6, 2021 7:56AM

@1630Boston said:
used to be able to buy these for a buck
they would help

When we were kids, three of us pitched in to get a pair of these. We were all at the guys house when they arrived. You can well imagine what we were expecting to be able to do with these. Well, the guy who got the delivery tore open the box, pulled these out, put them on and looked at the other two of us. Then he held up his hand and looked at that. "S--t", he exclaims, and threw these to the ground.
We were so disappointed.
The lens was just a piece of cardboard with an 1/8" hole in the center. In the hole was a piece of a feather, or lines of very fine thread. When you looked at something, it just made like a little aura around whatever you were looking at.
We expected A LOT more for a dollar !

MetroD · October 6, 2021 9:11AM

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

FS, and the other time-dependent labels, seem to be popular.

For example, see the PCGS 'pop report' for the 2021 (T1) Proof-W ASE. Link

As of 10.06.21:
~ 11,492 coins, or 37.11% of the total, were FS (multiple variations; ex - PCGS coin #858420 and 860959)
~ 8,946 coins, or 28.89% of the total were FDI (multiple variations; ex - PCGS coin #858421 and 861225)
~ 5,314 coins, or 17.16% of the total were Other (ex - PCGS #862038 and 877927)
~ 3,361 coins, or 10.85% of the total were Advance Release (via the ABPP; ex - PCGS coin #854424 and 887846)
~ 1,602 coins, or 5.17% of the total were Base (PCGS coin #854426)
~ 251 coins, or 0.81% of the total were Congratulations Set (less FS & FDI variations; ex - PCGS coin #860958)

The largest single category is FS. It represents over 1/3 of the total (i.e., 37.11%).
Further, over 3/4 of the total is time-dependent (i.e., FS + FDI + AR = 37.11 + 28.89 + 10.85 = 76.85%).

micotu · October 6, 2021 9:32AM

just send it in for grading and see what comes back.

gumby1234 · October 6, 2021 9:47AM

@MetroD very informative, but does that equal popular or just mainly dealers sending them in for those labels? Also if almost 77% are time dependent labels wouldn't that mean that they are easily obtained on the secondary market? I don't see any allure to having one of these labels especially if they are priced higher than an equally graded coin.

59Horsehide · October 6, 2021 9:54AM

The mint's item number may be stamped on one of the box sides/ends. For example, the 2021 Mint Set is numbered 21RJ. You can find the item ids on the US Mint website.

coinbuf · October 6, 2021 12:47PM

Thanks for all the additional suggestions, anything to do with the old email is a no go as I purged all that information years ago. And I did check the box but there are no other labels or information other than than on the front label. I did attempt to use the USPS tracking but this number is old and their system just shows as untrackable, so I cannot get a delivery timeframe from that.

This has been sitting in one of my SDB boxes that I do not open very often and had forgotten about, next time I'm into that box I'll have to just open it and see.

BryceM · October 6, 2021 1:26PM

Know any doctors or dentists? Most X-ray machines need to be "dry-fired" a couple times a day before they're used on patients. Easy enough to accidentally leave a box in there and take a quick peek at what's inside.

You've got a bigger SDB than me if you're keeping shipping boxes in it. I thought slabs took lots of space.

messydesk · October 6, 2021 1:29PM

Next time to fly somewhere, put it in your carry-on, then when they x-ray it, take a look.

MetroD · October 6, 2021 4:35PM

@gumby1234 said:
[...] but does that equal popular or just mainly dealers sending them in for those labels? [...]

I am not a dealer, but I assume they order time-dependent labels because there is a customer demand for them.

@gumby1234 said:
[...] Also if almost 77% are time dependent labels wouldn't that mean that they are easily obtained on the secondary market? [...]

Agree on a relatively greater supply. That said, I would expect the equilibrium price to be dictated by demand.

@gumby1234 said:
[...] I don't see any allure to having one of these labels especially if they are priced higher than an equally graded coin.

I tend not to be a label shopper either. That said, they are out there. For example: APMEX #237700

Just for fun, I checked the APMEX pricing on the 2021 (T1 & T2) ASE in PCGS MS-70.

The base and FS offerings are the exact same price.
The FDI price is approximately $17.00 higher.

jmlanzaf · October 6, 2021 5:17PM

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Why do you think they keep them in the sealed shipping boxes? It's not because they are easier to store. Anyone who has a sealed box is doing it to preserve 1st strike eligibility.

And anyone who wants 1st strike is, by definition, "chasing labels" - as is their God-given right.

jmlanzaf · October 6, 2021 5:19PM

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

P.S. There's a DATED packing slip in the box.

Better to ask, if you don't know, than simply draw conclusions.

jmlanzaf · October 6, 2021 5:20PM

@gumby1234 said:
@MetroD very informative, but does that equal popular or just mainly dealers sending them in for those labels? Also if almost 77% are time dependent labels wouldn't that mean that they are easily obtained on the secondary market? I don't see any allure to having one of these labels especially if they are priced higher than an equally graded coin.

You are allowed to not buy one.

Bochiman · October 6, 2021 6:50PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Why do you think they keep them in the sealed shipping boxes? It's not because they are easier to store. Anyone who has a sealed box is doing it to preserve 1st strike eligibility.

And anyone who wants 1st strike is, by definition, "chasing labels" - as is their God-given right.

Not always true about the reason for keeping something stored "unopened". There are, at least, 2 other valid (to many people) reasons:

1) To give something 'fun' or 'interesting', in an original unmolested state, to someone else (like their child later). I have a few things like that. 1st strike doesn't even come into play for that.
2) To have something attributed (for label purposes) properly as it came. Ie....when the USMint put out the 2006 20th annv SAE set, they also put out some of the SAEs outside the set. If you want them to be sent in AND be attributed to the set on the label, you have to send unopened.

As to why people didn't do it originally, that is their decision. Suffice to say, it is a reason and has nothing to do with "1st strike", in and of itself....though, it is ALSO a reason.

jmlanzaf · October 6, 2021 6:55PM

@Bochiman said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Why do you think they keep them in the sealed shipping boxes? It's not because they are easier to store. Anyone who has a sealed box is doing it to preserve 1st strike eligibility.

And anyone who wants 1st strike is, by definition, "chasing labels" - as is their God-given right.

Not always true about the reason for keeping something stored "unopened". There are, at least, 2 other valid (to many people) reasons:

1) To give something 'fun' or 'interesting', in an original unmolested state, to someone else (like their child later). I have a few things like that. 1st strike doesn't even come into play for that.
2) To have something attributed (for label purposes) properly as it came. Ie....when the USMint put out the 2006 20th annv SAE set, they also put out some of the SAEs outside the set. If you want them to be sent in AND be attributed to the set on the label, you have to send unopened.

As to why people didn't do it originally, that is their decision. Suffice to say, it is a reason and has nothing to do with "1st strike", in and of itself....though, it is ALSO a reason.

True, although the second reason is also a label reason.

OPA · October 6, 2021 7:15PM

That was the Pitney Bowes address when they had the contract with the US Mint. As such, your Mint item was issued after 2008

Pitney Bowes 1657 N Shelby Oaks Dr Ste 105 Memphis TN 38134.

Bochiman · October 6, 2021 7:38PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@Bochiman said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Why do you think they keep them in the sealed shipping boxes? It's not because they are easier to store. Anyone who has a sealed box is doing it to preserve 1st strike eligibility.

And anyone who wants 1st strike is, by definition, "chasing labels" - as is their God-given right.

Not always true about the reason for keeping something stored "unopened". There are, at least, 2 other valid (to many people) reasons:

1) To give something 'fun' or 'interesting', in an original unmolested state, to someone else (like their child later). I have a few things like that. 1st strike doesn't even come into play for that.
2) To have something attributed (for label purposes) properly as it came. Ie....when the USMint put out the 2006 20th annv SAE set, they also put out some of the SAEs outside the set. If you want them to be sent in AND be attributed to the set on the label, you have to send unopened.

As to why people didn't do it originally, that is their decision. Suffice to say, it is a reason and has nothing to do with "1st strike", in and of itself....though, it is ALSO a reason.

True, although the second reason is also a label reason.

Which I DID state (and bolded above in this quote). You had, erroneously stated only 1st strike as the reason. Even though it is a label reason, set labeling, which is NOT 1st strike, is ALSO a reason.

I have an unopened 2006 20th annv set that I don't think is 1st strike. My mother ordered it and never opened it (she got sick, it sat, she forgot about it, she passed, I "inherited" it). I haven't opened it because, if someone wants it from me, they likely will want the chance to get the set designation, and I respect that.
If they get it from me, and that doesn't matter, then no harm from keeping it unopened anyway. Still has nothing to do with 1st strike.

RedSeals · October 7, 2021 3:37AM

Treashunt · October 7, 2021 4:32AM

Come on, open the darn box!

Jzyskowski1 · October 7, 2021 4:54AM

“i’ll give you a dollar “😂. Open it up

jmlanzaf · October 7, 2021 5:06AM

@Bochiman said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Bochiman said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@gumby1234 said:
It would have to have proof of being mailed within the first 30 days and he can't find that. Does First strike eligibility really matter that much or is it just people chasing labels?

Why do you think they keep them in the sealed shipping boxes? It's not because they are easier to store. Anyone who has a sealed box is doing it to preserve 1st strike eligibility.

And anyone who wants 1st strike is, by definition, "chasing labels" - as is their God-given right.

Not always true about the reason for keeping something stored "unopened". There are, at least, 2 other valid (to many people) reasons:

1) To give something 'fun' or 'interesting', in an original unmolested state, to someone else (like their child later). I have a few things like that. 1st strike doesn't even come into play for that.
2) To have something attributed (for label purposes) properly as it came. Ie....when the USMint put out the 2006 20th annv SAE set, they also put out some of the SAEs outside the set. If you want them to be sent in AND be attributed to the set on the label, you have to send unopened.

As to why people didn't do it originally, that is their decision. Suffice to say, it is a reason and has nothing to do with "1st strike", in and of itself....though, it is ALSO a reason.

True, although the second reason is also a label reason.

Which I DID state (and bolded above in this quote). You had, erroneously stated only 1st strike as the reason. Even though it is a label reason, set labeling, which is NOT 1st strike, is ALSO a reason.

I have an unopened 2006 20th annv set that I don't think is 1st strike. My mother ordered it and never opened it (she got sick, it sat, she forgot about it, she passed, I "inherited" it). I haven't opened it because, if someone wants it from me, they likely will want the chance to get the set designation, and I respect that.
If they get it from me, and that doesn't matter, then no harm from keeping it unopened anyway. Still has nothing to do with 1st strike.

I believe I already agreed with you.

I'll amend it to say that 95% of the sealed boxes are for label reasons.

Sweetpie · October 7, 2021 5:24AM

List it up on Ebay as Mystery Coin Box.

Drizzt · October 7, 2021 5:50AM

Can post office still scan the bar codes?

Namvet69 · October 7, 2021 7:36AM

I'm for having the dentist scan it. It'll take a minute. Drum roll please! Peace Roy

coinbuf · October 7, 2021 10:55AM

@BryceM said:
Know any doctors or dentists? Most X-ray machines need to be "dry-fired" a couple times a day before they're used on patients. Easy enough to accidentally leave a box in there and take a quick peek at what's inside.

You've got a bigger SDB than me if you're keeping shipping boxes in it. I thought slabs took lots of space.

Sadly I don't know any of those in a way that I could ask that favor. And yes storage is one of the big downsides for a series collector like myself, my Lincoln set has 146 slabs (not including the dups) for that one set alone. So I actually have a few SDB's, hate the expense but a necessary evil since I like to collect by series.

Is there any way to tell what is in this mint box from the label?

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