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MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Does anyone here collect blanks and planchets? I have been collecting them for decades and have quite a few that are tough to find. I've had the one below for probably 25-30 years. I don't know what took me so long but I finally sent it in. I'm sure there must be more, but I've never seen another of this type. @FredWeinberg @ErrorsOnCoins Have either of y'all ever seen many of this type?

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably fairly scarce compared to more modern blanks.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a handful of blank cent planchets. The mint contracts with a nearby company and they turn up occasionally.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks just like the blank cent planchet I have (minus the dark spots). Cheers, RickO

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    WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    You guys do realize the date span on the NGC holder right? 1856-1864 which would mean the planchet is for either a flying eagle cent (1856-1858) or a copper nickel Indian cent (1859-1864). You can tell these apart from regular bronze penny planchets by the composition but also, these will be noticeably thicker than bronze cent planchets. Not just your typical penny planchet ;)

    Good catch! I didn't notice the date🤣😂

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's cool

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool!

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Altho blank planchets are considered a mint error, I do not research nor collect any of them as they lack "eye appeal"

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    ByersByers Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Chris- I have even had experimental blank planchets certified, and have found them difficult to sell.

    One of my favorites is a (1943) copper blank!

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. I can’t believe that not everybody didn’t immediately recognize it as a “white cent” planchet!

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    You guys do realize the date span on the NGC holder right? 1856-1864 which would mean the planchet is for either a flying eagle cent (1856-1858) or a copper nickel Indian cent (1859-1864). You can tell these apart from regular bronze penny planchets by the composition but also, these will be noticeably thicker than bronze cent planchets. Not just your typical penny planchet ;)

    I love that it took a YN to point that out. Thank you Kliao.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace actually read my post above.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I purchased Bill Fivaz’s type set of blanks and planchets
    Almost 20 years ago – and of course it had one of those
    Copper nickel Indian planchets-There are a few around and they’re a bit more common
    relative to Half cent planchets, for example.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @MWallace actually read my post above.

    Yep, I realize you got it too. Thanks.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a tad OT... be careful with those blanks... :grin:

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another learning day.
    Thanks.
    Wayne

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think anyone in the know can tell that the planchet is definitely from 1856.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And even if it's not, still really cool.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty neat piece. you can include it in a FE set or an Indian set - nobody can prove you wrong! :)

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    You guys do realize the date span on the NGC holder right? 1856-1864 which would mean the planchet is for either a flying eagle cent (1856-1858) or a copper nickel Indian cent (1859-1864). You can tell these apart from regular bronze penny planchets by the composition but also, these will be noticeably thicker than bronze cent planchets. Not just your typical penny planchet ;)

    4.6 grams vs. 3.11 is also a give-away.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is an unstruck planchet really a coin?

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Type 1 is just a metal disk, cut out of a strip of the appropriate thickness to be a coin.

    Type 2 is the same disk with a proto-rim created by the upsetting mill.

    Both are steps along the way to becoming a coin, past raw metal...

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Is an unstruck planchet really a coin?

    No, but neither is a 1933 double eagle, a 1913 liberty nickel or, possibly, every pattern.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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