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GTG 1944 S Walker Grade revealed

privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 6, 2021 9:08PM in U.S. Coin Forum

A recentpickup of mine. Let's see what everyone guesses.


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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just off the top of my pointed head.....I'll WAG of 64.
    Those later date S mints are notorious for weak strikes.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impossible from those photos. Sorry.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Impossible from those photos. Sorry.

    That's why it's called "Guess" the grade. :D

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    pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 58

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecoin said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Impossible from those photos. Sorry.

    That's why it's called "Guess" the grade. :D

    OK then: MS Details, Harshly Lit. B)

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @privatecoin said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Impossible from those photos. Sorry.

    That's why it's called "Guess" the grade. :D

    OK then: MS Details, Harshly Lit. B)

    Cool beans. 😎

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn’t pay more than 58 no matter how nice. So maybe 61 since the market value is the same

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:
    Just off the top of my pointed head.....I'll WAG of 64.
    Those later date S mints are notorious for weak strikes.

    True. This one is exceptionally bad. Zero eye appeal. 61 at best.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will guess AU58.... but would not buy it unless priced as an XF....Cheers, RickO

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 55. Hard to tell if that is some wear or not

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. That's about the flattest obverse I've ever seen on a Walker. I'll guess 63 but it sure looks AU

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Due to the angle, hard to tell if MS or not, but it does look like the luster band is intact.
    The gouge/scratch near the motto and marks on the sun will certainly be grade limiting.
    I'll go with 62.

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks like an average strike even for an "S" Mint coin. add in the obverse contact marks and the "dipped to death" appearance and I would avoid the coin no matter what the grade and price.

    here's mine.

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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 and at the low end

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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58-61 -ish
    That left hand is GONE.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Likely 63 or 64 on the holder... I think the camera angle is hiding luster. The weakness in strike would make me wait for a better piece... unless I could get it for 58 money...

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Weak strike, even for a 1944-s, distracting marks in right field, plus what looks like overly dipped, impaired luster....Sorry to be harsh, but it's not a good 44-s. Sorry! MS60?

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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. I know those are weakly struck but really…
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll wait for Coronel Jessup to venture his guess then add a point or two for mine.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF/AU Cleaned. Throw it back into the junk box.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can do much better than that. Here's an MS64 in an OGH PCGS holder.
    Jim



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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well here it is everyone. Ms63. I got it pretty cheap. I was just amazed by how much missing details, but still graded MS.


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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2021 9:28PM

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad you got it for a good price. Definitely a buy the coin not the holder example.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Me thinks that the grade is a gift.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is not a gift... it really is a statement as to the quality issues at the San Francisco Mint and for this series. 1944 follows 1941 and 1940 as the worst for the WLH series.

    This goes straight to the heart of what is wrong with numismatics. Take the time to understand and appreciate the series of whatever series you collect. Not all coins look great or the same at various grade levels. The lesson learned from this is that few...if any... will learn or understand what matters.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was an educational piece for me. I would have never guessed it as a MS. So I bought it as one for me to study and learn.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mine is also a 44-S:
    same grade even

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2021 9:11AM

    I wasn’t sure if there was rub, or not, as it was really too difficult to tell from those images. I am not terribly surprised at that grade.

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