GTG Wilson dollar

Goldminers · August 27, 2021 9:51AM

Considering crack out vs crossover. Thanks.

asheland · August 27, 2021 11:23AM

MS62?

gumby1234 · August 27, 2021 11:25AM

Don't know anything about these. Would it even be worth a regrade? Looks nice

Goldminers · August 27, 2021 11:50AM

@gumby1234 said:
Don't know anything about these. Would it even be worth a regrade? Looks nice

Thanks. These relatively scarce medals are worth a regrade, depending on what others think it might grade now. I was thinking it could be, but then again submitting medals to PCGS can be challenging, so it may stay in this holder. I will post the existing grade later after I receive several more estimates.

Treashunt · August 27, 2021 12:00PM

Nice clean obv, except for the mark behind the head.

Rev: The head if Liberty is soft, this may limit the grade, depending on how they normally were struck.

I'll guess a 65.

NumisOxide · August 27, 2021 12:24PM

I'm going to go with MS64. Cool

Smudge · August 27, 2021 12:30PM

Always wanted one of those.

scotty4449 · August 27, 2021 1:02PM

I know nothing, but it looks real nice to me. 66?

ricko · August 27, 2021 1:26PM

I think the obverse could carry it to a 65. Cheers, RickO

Panda4456 · August 27, 2021 1:43PM

Love that medal! I want one but they are expensive

Coinscratch · August 27, 2021 1:49PM

I know zero about these but will assume the strike is strong based on the image and generalize 65/66+ considering the preservation and luster.

coinsarefun · August 27, 2021 9:14PM

I would send it in as a crossover. Later you can always do reconsideration

pruebas · August 27, 2021 10:27PM

64

Kove · August 27, 2021 11:20PM

64, limited by some hairlines IMO.

U1chicago · August 28, 2021 6:49AM

Something makes me think AU 58….but if it’s not wear that I see, then I wouldn’t be surprised with a grade as high as 65

Goldminers · August 28, 2021 7:48PM

After looking at several other graded examples, it appears the soft lack of details in Juno's hair on the reverse is the way many of these look.. I also found this article on the gold version and additional historical background on this that I did not notice in another recent post by @Zoins discussing some rare pattern strikes of this Morgan design.

https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/wcm/coinview.aspx?sc=237112

gumby1234 · August 28, 2021 8:13PM

@Goldminers so are you going to reveal the grade it is currently?

ifthevamzarockin · August 28, 2021 8:22PM

Never seen one before, thanks for sharing.

My dumb guess is MS-63

Goldminers · August 28, 2021 9:47PM

.> @gumby1234 said:

@Goldminers so are you going to reveal the grade it is currently?

Yes, but after this excellent feedback I am now going to send it in Monday as an NGC crossover and wait for a few weeks until the new PCGS grade comes back for the reveal.

It will be a while, but I can find this old post and will then let everyone know how things went. Thanks everyone for your input

ricko · August 29, 2021 4:17AM

Oh no.... The agony of the interminably long wait...... Those who check for their grades twenty times a day, will be clicking this thread for weeks... Cheers, RickO

Goldminers · August 30, 2021 7:51AM

.Aren't medals supposed to have the reverse the same vertical orientation as the obverse like military medals, and coins have the reverse upside down?

This Wilson medal has coin style orientation with the reverse upside down. Were these 1920 medals an exception?

krueger · August 30, 2021 11:15AM

Own a bunch and yes they are in coin turn.
I have researched these. I think there is one Gold one in Medal turn though, go figure.
There are silver plated bronze ones out there. done on the 50's and 60's. some in holders . this one looks OK
I say a 64 to 64+. above average piece.

Goldminers · August 30, 2021 11:28AM

@krueger said:
Own a bunch and yes they are in coin turn.
I have researched these. I think there is one Gold one in Medal turn though, go figure.
There are silver plated bronze ones out there. done on the 50's and 60's. some in holders . this one looks OK
I say a 64 to 64+. above average piece.

Thanks for the information. I just put mine in the mail to PCGS.

Goldminers · November 5, 2021 1:17PM

Well it has been a very long GTG wait. This was in a NGC MS62 holder. It is now in a PCGS MS63 holder. Overall a nice result

I broke it out before submitting and expected the 63, but was hoping for a 64. It would not surprise me very much if I sent it back to NGC in this PCGS 63 holder, that is could double cross to 64 there. But for now I will keep it just like it as is, because it is a fine example of a fairly rare medal. Thanks for taking the time to look, and for your encouraging grading estimates.

GTG Wilson dollar

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