@ricko said:
No!!! Emphatically NO!!! Get back to teaching the proper topics.... My wife is a college professor, and shows me the horrific levels of remedial instruction necessary for incoming students. Cheers, RickO
You got that right ricko. Been there done that. I was doing remedial instruction at a University when I was an undergraduate. God bless your wife......I got out.....never looked back.
As many poster have said there is no way numismatics should be taught in high school. Numismatics could be taught in college graduate level programs AFTER fundamentals have been learned.
And college social engineering and political science programs should also be taught only at the graduate level, after fundamental skills have been mastered.
@gumby1234 said:
I went to get a coffee the other day. The young woman behind the counter ( probably 19 or 20 yrs old ). The coffee came to $3.10 so I handed her a 5 dollar bill and a dime. She stood there with the most puzzled look on her face for about 3 mins, Then I explained to her that she owed me $2 in change. That shows how well the schools are doing with Math class.
You should have gave her a $2, an Ike and a dime. Your coffee would have been cold by the time she figured that one out!
@gumby1234 said:
I went to get a coffee the other day. The young woman behind the counter ( probably 19 or 20 yrs old ). The coffee came to $3.10 so I handed her a 5 dollar bill and a dime. She stood there with the most puzzled look on her face for about 3 mins, Then I explained to her that she owed me $2 in change. That shows how well the schools are doing with Math class.
You should have gave her a $2, an Ike and a dime. Your coffee would have been cold by the time she figured that one out!
Mark
I'm not sure how this new Core math works but I'm pretty sure an equation such as this would require a full college rule page. Try doing that one in your head.
@pmh1nic said:
I could see it being incorporated into a history, art and even science lesson because it has a connection with all three. I'm not sure about it being a stand alone subject for the reasons many have already expressed. Unfortunately the U.S. is lagging behind in the basics so the time and dollars would probably better spent on emphasizing the three "R's"
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Especially World History, and even U.S. History could be taught incorporating the subject of numismatics. Greek, Roman, and Byzantine coins would be great visual aids.
no, they should teach how to use and balance a checkbook. They should teach how the money system works and financial responsibility. They should refrain from glorifying credit.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Old farts bashing the smart kids of today... How ironic.
About 25% of this nation Adults need to get an eduction in hygiene, science, charts, and math.
AND civics and American History
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Trying to understand how a kid is "extremely smart" but can't make change, read above a 6th grade level, speak proper non- F-word laced English and can't think for himself so he has to use the internet as a crutch rather than actually learn things. But hey, he can play the heck out of video games...
@telephoto1 said:
Trying to understand how a kid is "extremely smart" but can't make change, read above a 6th grade level, speak proper non- F-word laced English and can't think for himself so he has to use the internet as a crutch rather than actually learn things. But hey, he can play the heck out of video games...
Really???
A one-off that works in a convince store is your data point for a generation who can't make change?
Smart kids know how to make change and read.
Free thinking is a trait today among our youth, which is a good thing.
Lots of really smart kids today (remember, we created the gene pool, so don’t be too harsh).
A big problem I see is the application side. What will work even look like for my kids? How do we teach to an uncertain future?
The biggest thing for me, as a dad of kids who just went back into the public school system (from 4yrs of homeschool) is this: teach work ethic, inquisitiveness and morality. If they get that by the time they’re 18-22, things will work out.
Maybe they’ll even want to keep collecting coins with me.
@ErrorsOnCoins
That’s what I intended in my post “for me, as a dad…”
Public school has always been a crap shoot. If I teach them those things, they’ll be able to get what they need out whatever situation they’re in.
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Kids know how to utilize technology... they simply are behind the curve in connection with analyzing data and appreciating historical context. There is a disconnect and kids today need to recognize that the yardstick of today does not work for what transpired in the past. While covid is horrible, it still does not match the destruction of WWI and the influenza that followed after the war and well into 1919. And the same can be said of the Depression of the 1930s. History tells us were we have been... mistakes that were made... And yet few seem to acknowledge its importance going forward in terms of creating a more perfect union or the work in progress that is required to make a better world in general. And it is truly sad that words such as this have to be written.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Interesting question but like Simon would say, "I give it a no".
Of course part of this thread had to devolve into a "kids these days..." rabbit hole. Seems like the history class needs to be taken, since every generation gets slagged by the previous one (or two).
@telephoto1 said:
Trying to understand how a kid is "extremely smart" but can't make change, read above a 6th grade level, speak proper non- F-word laced English and can't think for himself so he has to use the internet as a crutch rather than actually learn things. But hey, he can play the heck out of video games...
Really???
A one-off that works in a convince store is your data point for a generation who can't make change?
Smart kids know how to make change and read.
Free thinking is a trait today among our youth, which is a good thing.
The internet is just a tool not a crutch.
I've unfortunately seen too many "one-offs", as has my girlfriend, who has been a teacher for the last quarter century. That said, there are some bright kids who come into our shop that make me feel at least a little better about our future.
My internet remark stands. The preponderance of youth today could not function without their electronic brains.
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You got that right ricko. Been there done that. I was doing remedial instruction at a University when I was an undergraduate. God bless your wife......I got out.....never looked back.
As many poster have said there is no way numismatics should be taught in high school. Numismatics could be taught in college graduate level programs AFTER fundamentals have been learned.
And college social engineering and political science programs should also be taught only at the graduate level, after fundamental skills have been mastered.
OINK
You should have gave her a $2, an Ike and a dime. Your coffee would have been cold by the time she figured that one out!
Mark
No, they would just mess it up.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I'm not sure how this new Core math works but I'm pretty sure an equation such as this would require a full college rule page. Try doing that one in your head.
Old farts bashing the smart kids of today... How ironic.
About 25% of this nations Adults need to get an eduction in hygiene, science, charts, and math.
This
Especially World History, and even U.S. History could be taught incorporating the subject of numismatics. Greek, Roman, and Byzantine coins would be great visual aids.
no, they should teach how to use and balance a checkbook. They should teach how the money system works and financial responsibility. They should refrain from glorifying credit.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
AND civics and American History
100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21
Trying to understand how a kid is "extremely smart" but can't make change, read above a 6th grade level, speak proper non- F-word laced English and can't think for himself so he has to use the internet as a crutch rather than actually learn things. But hey, he can play the heck out of video games...
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
no but they should teach personal finances
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Really???
A one-off that works in a convince store is your data point for a generation who can't make change?
Smart kids know how to make change and read.
Free thinking is a trait today among our youth, which is a good thing.
The internet is just a tool not a crutch.
Lots of really smart kids today (remember, we created the gene pool, so don’t be too harsh).
A big problem I see is the application side. What will work even look like for my kids? How do we teach to an uncertain future?
The biggest thing for me, as a dad of kids who just went back into the public school system (from 4yrs of homeschool) is this: teach work ethic, inquisitiveness and morality. If they get that by the time they’re 18-22, things will work out.
Maybe they’ll even want to keep collecting coins with me.
That is the parents job.
@ErrorsOnCoins
That’s what I intended in my post “for me, as a dad…”
Public school has always been a crap shoot. If I teach them those things, they’ll be able to get what they need out whatever situation they’re in.
Oh yes, 75% of American Adults need to get over the Me Syndrome.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I tried to start a Numismatics Club at my middle school a few years ago.
Zero interest; most of the kids nowadays don't even use coins.
Good on you for trying!
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No. Why wait until high school? Numismatics should be taught in Elementary school.
Kids know how to utilize technology... they simply are behind the curve in connection with analyzing data and appreciating historical context. There is a disconnect and kids today need to recognize that the yardstick of today does not work for what transpired in the past. While covid is horrible, it still does not match the destruction of WWI and the influenza that followed after the war and well into 1919. And the same can be said of the Depression of the 1930s. History tells us were we have been... mistakes that were made... And yet few seem to acknowledge its importance going forward in terms of creating a more perfect union or the work in progress that is required to make a better world in general. And it is truly sad that words such as this have to be written.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Interesting question but like Simon would say, "I give it a no".
Of course part of this thread had to devolve into a "kids these days..." rabbit hole. Seems like the history class needs to be taken, since every generation gets slagged by the previous one (or two).
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I've unfortunately seen too many "one-offs", as has my girlfriend, who has been a teacher for the last quarter century. That said, there are some bright kids who come into our shop that make me feel at least a little better about our future.
My internet remark stands. The preponderance of youth today could not function without their electronic brains.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012