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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    couple of W batcoin obv. strike thru pics from my searches.

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  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 442 ✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins very neat error.

    @CopperWire Thanks for the link and map. I was unable to get the link to open. Was that series P mint as the one @happycollecting has?

    @happycollecting what is the estimate cost of slabbing and rough idea of value of these? I have a couple W mint I'm trying to figure out what to do with.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MOS0231 said:
    That progression of the struck thur is really something! Wonder if PCGS makes a holder for 17 coins?

    A 3 coin holder would be really cool with three different die states of this error.

  • MOS0231MOS0231 Posts: 108 ✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @MOS0231 said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:
    Still waiting for answer to my question. Is this a W quarter?

    No "P"

    Gotcha. I have a W that appears to have the V75 "struck through". Ok if I PM you some pics tomorrow for your opinion?

    Start a new thread, let's see it.

    I will tomorrow. Unfortunately I can only take pics with my cellphone

    tag me to ensure I see it.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    EOC cool error coin! :)

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coin/Awesome thread

    Thanks for showing, regardless of the friction. :D

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very neat error. Thanks for sharing!

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Mint Error coins are struck in error- they are not damaged in anyway shape or form – you’re welcome to your opinion but you are totally incorrect- coins that are struck as mint errors not damaged,And the mint never calls them damaged and does not consider them damaged – they would know the difference, a heck of a lot more than you would

    ……And believe me after 50 years I know what a damaged coin looks like and what a damaged coin is-

    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    Your "errors" were not made by mistake (especially not the intentionally made ones), but rather because a malfunction of the machinery (or human intervention) damaged the coins during the production. You're welcome to your opinion but mislabeling something does not make you (or the mint) correct regardless of how long you or they have been doing it.

    When you are in a car crash it may be the result of human error, but there is sure to be some damage as the result. When a mint employee makes an error and some foreign matter is left on a die the following coin(s) will not be struck as designed thus impaired thus damaged.

    A dictionary is a useful tool.

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  • HalfpenceHalfpence Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭

    This is one of the coolest errors I’ve seen!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an amazing struck through error coin..... I have a roll of S Bat coins, and was thinking about opening them, then I saw it was a Philadelphia coin.... Shucks. Oh well.... Cool coin indeed. Cheers, RickO

  • MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coin.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 7:17AM

    @coinbuf said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Mint Error coins are struck in error- they are not damaged in anyway shape or form – you’re welcome to your opinion but you are totally incorrect- coins that are struck as mint errors not damaged,And the mint never calls them damaged and does not consider them damaged – they would know the difference, a heck of a lot more than you would

    ……And believe me after 50 years I know what a damaged coin looks like and what a damaged coin is-

    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    Your "errors" were not made by mistake (especially not the intentionally made ones), but rather because a malfunction of the machinery (or human intervention) damaged the coins during the production. You're welcome to your opinion but mislabeling something does not make you (or the mint) correct regardless of how long you or they have been doing it.

    When you are in a car crash it may be the result of human error, but there is sure to be some damage as the result. When a mint employee makes an error and some foreign matter is left on a die the following coin(s) will not be struck as designed thus impaired thus damaged.

    A dictionary is a useful tool.

    Not all error coins are due to die damage. An off center strike, for example, is definitely an error and involves no damage.

    Even in your own dictionary work, you prove the applicability of the term error. The "mistake" by the machinery leads to damage.

    Useless semantic argument designed to inflame.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That design makes my skin crawl, especially now.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An error coin is not damaged because the anomaly occurred during the minting process. There was no existing coin to damage.

    If a struck coin (error or otherwise) is then damaged after striking, then that is damage.

    Just my opinion, at the risk of feeding the sideshow. :/

  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The thread title says nothing about an error coin.

    :)

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,699 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 9:22AM

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Mint Error coins are struck in error- they are not damaged in anyway shape or form – you’re welcome to your opinion but you are totally incorrect- coins that are struck as mint errors not damaged,And the mint never calls them damaged and does not consider them damaged – they would know the difference, a heck of a lot more than you would

    ……And believe me after 50 years I know what a damaged coin looks like and what a damaged coin is-

    Fred, your post left me confused. Even though a strike thru occurs during the minting process do you consider it damage? And do you consider a strike thru an error?

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  • nagsnags Posts: 822 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks like at least a handful have sold recently on eBay for pretty modest prices, and it’s indicated that someone had nearly a roll of them.

    Is it common to have that many of the same strike throughs of the same type?

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nags said:
    I

    Is it common to have that many of the same strike throughs of the same type?

    Sometimes yes and sometimes no. There are many one off strike thrus and the are also plenty of repeatable or progressive strike thrus where something stuck to the die.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not unusual for the foreign material to remain on the die for a while resulting in numerous similar strike thru's. Since the coins then go into a big big bag for shipment it is unusual to find many similar strike thru's in the same roll. Keep in mind that these designed for circulation coins do not get rolled until delivered to the armored carriers at each FED branch bank location. On top of that they first get dumped into a large rolling tub by the carrier. It is not like they rolled off the press and went strait into paper rolls.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Wow coinbuf just jumping from thread to thread making an ass of yourself. Pissing on every thread is a very impressive trick. I feel bad for you playing the disrupter when someone with your knowledge could do so much better 🤓ps. Cat still don’t think much of y🙀

    So you don't mind if I do something with my knowledge, so long as it meets your approval. But you do mind if I use my knowledge of English as that does not meet with your approval, duly noted. PS no problem I don't like cats much anyway.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Mint Error coins are struck in error- they are not damaged in anyway shape or form – you’re welcome to your opinion but you are totally incorrect- coins that are struck as mint errors not damaged,And the mint never calls them damaged and does not consider them damaged – they would know the difference, a heck of a lot more than you would

    ……And believe me after 50 years I know what a damaged coin looks like and what a damaged coin is-

    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    Your "errors" were not made by mistake (especially not the intentionally made ones), but rather because a malfunction of the machinery (or human intervention) damaged the coins during the production. You're welcome to your opinion but mislabeling something does not make you (or the mint) correct regardless of how long you or they have been doing it.

    When you are in a car crash it may be the result of human error, but there is sure to be some damage as the result. When a mint employee makes an error and some foreign matter is left on a die the following coin(s) will not be struck as designed thus impaired thus damaged.

    A dictionary is a useful tool.

    Not all error coins are due to die damage. An off center strike, for example, is definitely an error and involves no damage.

    Even in your own dictionary work, you prove the applicability of the term error. The "mistake" by the machinery leads to damage.

    Useless semantic argument designed to inflame.

    Lol sorry but you are incorrect, an off center strike very often produces a coin that is no longer round. These coins are no longer suited to for the task they were intended (commerce) as they do not work in vending machines, do not work correctly in sorting/rolling machines, etc... They are in fact defective AKA damaged. I wonder how many of those with the vitriol replies to me go into the local car dealership and ask for the factory errors :D, those must be worth more than the undamaged cars.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    coinbuf, are you a coin dealer or collector?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 11:17AM

    per Webster Dictionary

    Definition of error
    1 : ......

    2 : ........

    3 : something produced by mistake

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, at this point you might as well rename this thread "What are the definitions of Damage and Error"🙄.

    I tried to hang out through all of this hoping it would get back on track but it appears you all have taken a different path.

    Probably gonna get closed anyway due to Covid 😷

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 1:17PM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    coinbuf, are you a coin dealer or collector?

    Just a PITA

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Mint Error coins are struck in error- they are not damaged in anyway shape or form – you’re welcome to your opinion but you are totally incorrect- coins that are struck as mint errors not damaged,And the mint never calls them damaged and does not consider them damaged – they would know the difference, a heck of a lot more than you would

    ……And believe me after 50 years I know what a damaged coin looks like and what a damaged coin is-

    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    Your "errors" were not made by mistake (especially not the intentionally made ones), but rather because a malfunction of the machinery (or human intervention) damaged the coins during the production. You're welcome to your opinion but mislabeling something does not make you (or the mint) correct regardless of how long you or they have been doing it.

    When you are in a car crash it may be the result of human error, but there is sure to be some damage as the result. When a mint employee makes an error and some foreign matter is left on a die the following coin(s) will not be struck as designed thus impaired thus damaged.

    A dictionary is a useful tool.

    Not all error coins are due to die damage. An off center strike, for example, is definitely an error and involves no damage.

    Even in your own dictionary work, you prove the applicability of the term error. The "mistake" by the machinery leads to damage.

    Useless semantic argument designed to inflame.

    Lol sorry but you are incorrect, an off center strike very often produces a coin that is no longer round. These coins are no longer suited to for the task they were intended (commerce) as they do not work in vending machines, do not work correctly in sorting/rolling machines, etc... They are in fact defective AKA damaged. I wonder how many of those with the vitriol replies to me go into the local car dealership and ask for the factory errors :D, those must be worth more than the undamaged cars.

    Often but not always

    Different issue. A factory error doesn't add value to a car. However, I would gladly buy a factory auto error if the error was simply a painting error and the discount was appropriate.

    You must be an alt for our dear friend who led us on a 600 post semantic Hardanger on the meaning of "original"

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Wow coinbuf just jumping from thread to thread making an ass of yourself. Pissing on every thread is a very impressive trick. I feel bad for you playing the disrupter when someone with your knowledge could do so much better 🤓ps. Cat still don’t think much of y🙀

    So you don't mind if I do something with my knowledge, so long as it meets your approval. But you do mind if I use my knowledge of English as that does not meet with your approval, duly noted. PS no problem I don't like cats much anyway.

    Nope I object to someone who is intelligent and well versed looking for anyway to mouth off and shamefully twist the facts.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    He doesn't have an argument. He just wanted to start one.

    He didn't start by posting "cool mint damaged coin". He started with "just another damaged coin..." He just wanted to express his disdain for the entire error coin market.

    We could all agree to call them "cool damaged coins" and he'd still think he was too cool for the damaged coin aficionados.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    Interesting and valid points, and I do appreciate someone that can discuss a subject without the use of hate and vitriol as so many here do. 100% agree with you here "It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.". Yes I agree that strikethroughs generally do not impair (although not always) a coin's ability to perform it's intended function. But the value aspect is where it becomes interesting, does it really have added value or does that value come from a well crafted promotional effort over time. Many; especially those involved it selling such items; will say it does not matter but I think it does in fact matter.

    Take BN copper for example, for decades many collectors shunned BN copper and the values of those coins were well below that of RD or RB. Only quite recently, through the promotional efforts of some collectors and dealers, have the prices and desirability for some BN copper pieces begun to rise. My point with this example is that value can be a perception and that perceptions can and do change over time.

    Also added value for items that are not ordinary is somewhat common for collectables but is out of the ordinary for most other goods. Again going back to autos most people are less likely to pay more for a car with a big dent in the hood vs one without a dent. No matter how unique it is.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    He doesn't have an argument. He just wanted to start one.

    He didn't start by posting "cool mint damaged coin". He started with "just another damaged coin..." He just wanted to express his disdain for the entire error coin market.

    We could all agree to call them "cool damaged coins" and he'd still think he was too cool for the damaged coin aficionados.

    It is very funny that you think you know so much about me but actually know nothing.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    He doesn't have an argument. He just wanted to start one.

    He didn't start by posting "cool mint damaged coin". He started with "just another damaged coin..." He just wanted to express his disdain for the entire error coin market.

    We could all agree to call them "cool damaged coins" and he'd still think he was too cool for the damaged coin aficionados.

    It is very funny that you think you know so much about me but actually know nothing.

    I just read the words as written. I am proven correct by your answer to @ifthevamzarockin where you acknowledge that the bat is not damaged by your definition but then go on to argue the value proposition. So,in fact, you didn't care about the semantics of it, you simply wanted to argue that "damaged coins" should not have added value.

    This is another case of someone arguing that they are smarter than the market.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Wow coinbuf just jumping from thread to thread making an ass of yourself. Pissing on every thread is a very impressive trick. I feel bad for you playing the disrupter when someone with your knowledge could do so much better 🤓ps. Cat still don’t think much of y🙀

    So you don't mind if I do something with my knowledge, so long as it meets your approval. But you do mind if I use my knowledge of English as that does not meet with your approval, duly noted. PS no problem I don't like cats much anyway.

    Nope I object to someone who is intelligent and well versed looking for anyway to mouth off and shamefully twist the facts.

    I suggest that you might want to > @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    He doesn't have an argument. He just wanted to start one.

    He didn't start by posting "cool mint damaged coin". He started with "just another damaged coin..." He just wanted to express his disdain for the entire error coin market.

    We could all agree to call them "cool damaged coins" and he'd still think he was too cool for the damaged coin aficionados.

    It is very funny that you think you know so much about me but actually know nothing.

    I just read the words as written. I am proven correct by your answer to @ifthevamzarockin where you acknowledge that the bat is not damaged by your definition but then go on to argue the value proposition. So,in fact, you didn't care about the semantics of it, you simply wanted to argue that "damaged coins" should not have added value.

    This is another case of someone arguing that they are smarter than the market.

    As usual you twist the words to fit your narrative, I never said that I acknowledge that the bat is not damaged.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coinbuf you read like a book. Unfortunately it’s not a very good book. If you think your helping carry on. What I think of you is not important but your obvious lack of respect for yourself comes through loud and clear in how you treat others 🤓. If you know anything about cats he don’t give a damn what you think he pity’s you. 🙀

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who cares what a cat thinks?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Wow coinbuf just jumping from thread to thread making an ass of yourself. Pissing on every thread is a very impressive trick. I feel bad for you playing the disrupter when someone with your knowledge could do so much better 🤓ps. Cat still don’t think much of y🙀

    So you don't mind if I do something with my knowledge, so long as it meets your approval. But you do mind if I use my knowledge of English as that does not meet with your approval, duly noted. PS no problem I don't like cats much anyway.

    Nope I object to someone who is intelligent and well versed looking for anyway to mouth off and shamefully twist the facts.

    I suggest that you might want to > @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    For your reference:
    error
    [ˈerər]
    NOUN
    a mistake.

    It was a mistake to not clean or inspect the dies & it was a mistake to not catch it in quality control.

    damage
    [ˈdamij]
    NOUN
    physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.

    The coin was not physically harmed after striking and it did not impair the value, if anything it is worth more.
    The usefulness or normal function doesn't appear to be affected, good chance it would still vend or go through rolling machines and therefore functions normal and it would still be useful to make a purchase.

    I'm not sure your definition helps support your argument.

    He doesn't have an argument. He just wanted to start one.

    He didn't start by posting "cool mint damaged coin". He started with "just another damaged coin..." He just wanted to express his disdain for the entire error coin market.

    We could all agree to call them "cool damaged coins" and he'd still think he was too cool for the damaged coin aficionados.

    It is very funny that you think you know so much about me but actually know nothing.

    I just read the words as written. I am proven correct by your answer to @ifthevamzarockin where you acknowledge that the bat is not damaged by your definition but then go on to argue the value proposition. So,in fact, you didn't care about the semantics of it, you simply wanted to argue that "damaged coins" should not have added value.

    This is another case of someone arguing that they are smarter than the market.

    As usual you twist the words to fit your narrative, I never said that I acknowledge that the bat is not damaged.

    You're the one moving the topic. You were arguing impairment of function as proof of damage. You acknowledged that the bat did not have impairment of function. Do the calculus however you'd like: 1+2=6. The bottom line remains that you simply want to argue that such coins should not have added value from their "unique issues". That is the only thesis you care about.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Who cares what a cat thinks?

    Are you so pathetic that you’re going to fight with a cat. JM said a mouthful when he noted your changing the subject is really something. Go ahead tough guy give my cat hell. He still is pitying you and you can own that. 🙀

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    Who cares what a cat thinks?

    Are you so pathetic that you’re going to fight with a cat. JM said a mouthful when he noted your changing the subject is really something. Go ahead tough guy give my cat hell. He still is pitying you and you can own that. 🙀

    Are you really that lost in this conversation that you think I'm fighting with your silly cat. :D That is just too funny.

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  • MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Setting up for suicide by mod?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    Who cares what a cat thinks?

    Are you so pathetic that you’re going to fight with a cat. JM said a mouthful when he noted your changing the subject is really something. Go ahead tough guy give my cat hell. He still is pitying you and you can own that. 🙀

    Are you really that lost in this conversation that you think I'm fighting with your silly cat. :D That is just too funny.

    The cat's winning. 😈

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2021 4:40PM

    Wishful Thinking!

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  • MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is awesome

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    Lol sorry but you are incorrect, an off center strike very often produces a coin that is no longer round. These coins are no longer suited to for the task they were intended (commerce) as they do not work in vending machines, do not work correctly in sorting/rolling machines, etc...

    This would be the crux of my disagreement. "A coin that is no longer round" is not accurate. There never was a round coin to start with. There was a round planchet but that is not a coin.

    They are in fact defective AKA damaged.

    The two words to me do not mean the same thing. One refers to improper production while the other refers to subsequent impairment.

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