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This 09SVDB just showed up, its a phony!

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 19, 2021 6:14PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Judging by the clear pictures especially of the V.D.B the owner may not know its not genuine.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164967921002?hash=item2668dab56a:g:Te4AAOSwau1g9c7p


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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very crude fake

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The seller has the description "1909 s vdb lincoln cent wheat penny. The most sought after lincoln cent there is. Grab your piece of history."

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  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:
    The seller has the description "1909 s vdb lincoln cent wheat penny. The most sought after lincoln cent there is. Grab your piece of history."

    He also doesn't have ANY feedback as a seller, only a buyer!

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Been waiting to mention it but low and no feedback selling is what any new seller would have. It’s not proof of anything but I some cases it is supportive evidence that a new seller selling a “rare coin” and only such might know what’s up.

    I try not to focus on low to no feedback as I’d never report based upon feedback levels.

    But that is a poor fake.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very poor job. They should be embarrassed!

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn, that has everything "FAKE" going on - that should be the learning coin on how to tell a fake 09-S VDB!

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2021 6:53PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Been waiting to mention it but low and no feedback selling is what any new seller would have. It’s not proof of anything but I some cases it is supportive evidence that a new seller selling a “rare coin” and only such might know what’s up.

    I try not to focus on low to no feedback as I’d never report based upon feedback levels.

    But that is a poor fake.

    You sir are correct, but first sell out of the shoot and he likely believes its a Genuine, pretty high value coin isn't the best idea, I never meant the seller was doing something dishonest, or even shady, he likely hasn't a clue the coin is a counterfeit he posted to clear of pictures of it for one thing!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    Been waiting to mention it but low and no feedback selling is what any new seller would have. It’s not proof of anything but I some cases it is supportive evidence that a new seller selling a “rare coin” and only such might know what’s up.

    I try not to focus on low to no feedback as I’d never report based upon feedback levels.

    But that is a poor fake.

    You sir are correct, but first sell out of the shoot and he likely believes its a Genuine, pretty high value coin isn't the best idea, I never meant the seller was doing something dishonest, or even shady, he likely hasn't a clue the coin is a counterfeit he posted to clear of pictures of it for one thing!

    I agree. Most shysters like "cloudy" days and rotten pictures.

    Pete

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks a lot like the typical, not ready for prime time, Chinese product.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what a fugly crude fake

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It certainly is a fake, has anyone messaged the seller? He likely does not know... Cheers, RickO

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    It certainly is a fake, has anyone messaged the seller? He likely does not know... Cheers, RickO

    Yes, I messaged the seller (with no reply received, thus far) and reported it.

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  • okiedudeokiedude Posts: 650 ✭✭✭

    Sad, already 10 bids. I messaged him too, wonder if he'll respond?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,068 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    It certainly is a fake, has anyone messaged the seller? He likely does not know... Cheers, RickO

    He likely does know. :D

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  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @ricko said:
    It certainly is a fake, has anyone messaged the seller? He likely does not know... Cheers, RickO

    Yes, I messaged the seller (with no reply received, thus far) and reported it.

    Thank you Mark,
    I'm surprised the seller hasn't took the listing down after your contact, or hasn't yet?
    As of 10:40am Eastern Time the listing is still active with 10 bidders at $338.33

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    Thomas Jefferson!

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @ricko said:
    It certainly is a fake, has anyone messaged the seller? He likely does not know... Cheers, RickO

    Yes, I messaged the seller (with no reply received, thus far) and reported it.

    Thank you Mark,
    I'm surprised the seller hasn't took the listing down after your contact, or hasn't yet?
    As of 10:40am Eastern Time the listing is still active with 10 bidders at $338.33

    He might not have even seen my message yet. And/or he might know it's a counterfeit and either wont respond or will do so later.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    I just checked on the listing and its still available to view, BUT! the seller ended the auction stated the item is No Longer Available!
    So, another good job collectively speaking of course.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    I just ran down the newly listed 09SVDB's on ebay and it looks like there is a lot of pretty nice choices of the coin to choose from, LOTS of slabbed and graded ones too!
    Now if something could be done with those 1909S-VDB cup coasters that keep showing up in the United States Coins listings, I mean they're not a coin at all!
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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two messages to him. If he doesn't take it down then he's a rat fink.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    listing has been ended.

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