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2021 Type 2 missing edge reed
derryb
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Is this common to all of them?
Those receiving the coin please report any that have all the reeds.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
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Yeah, security feature
I bought a few today and the dealer pointed out the missing reed under the date, he said it was part of the new security measures being taken.
Guess we'll be seeing it on all future proofs as well.
While CoinWorld claims the missing reed will also be a feature of the Type 2 AGE, mint images of this coin do not show a missing reed. > @JBK said:
I would prefer a single gold reed on the ASEs as a security feature.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
I'm not sure how it is more secure.
will they all be at the same o'clock?
I just got 2 in the mail today from APMEX and they are missing a reed in the same place. I had not heard anything about this until I read this post.
That will sure scare away the countrtfeiters.
Can't you just file down a reed to replicate or approximate that feature?
A filled in (doubled) reed would have been harder to copy (alter), or alternating sections like some foreign coins have.
I have seen images of three different locations, all somewhere under the date. Guess we'll be seeing labels with "missing reed position A" etc.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
Wonder how much it changes the weight? lol
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
So, if there was an "error" where a genuine coin did not have the missing reed, would it be considered counterfeit??
I see the missing reed on the one ounce versions.
Proof #1: https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2021-american-eagle-gold-one-ounce-proof-coin-obverse-new-design.jpg
Proof #2: https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2021-one-ounce-gold-proof-coin-21EBN.html?cgid=2021-product-schedule
Uncirculated #1: https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2021-american-eagle-gold-one-ounce-uncirculated-coin-obverse-new-design.jpg
Uncirculated #2 - https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2021-one-ounce-gold-uncirculated-coin-21EHN.html?cgid=2021-product-schedule
Bullion: https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2021-american-eagle-gold-one-ounce-bullion-coin-obverse-new-design.jpg
Yet this mint image from their website shows full reeds on the Type 2:
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
It's a conspiracy!
Now I am curious.
If you do not mind me asking, where is this image located?
How funny!
wrong, again. photo from their image library.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
Mint's image library
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
Looks like the fractionals don’t have it.
Thats where I got my images for "Proof #1", "Uncirculated #1", and "Bullion".
Which image did you use?
Type 2 half ounce design.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
As @MsMorrisine said earlier, it appears that the missing reed is just on the one ounce AGE, not the fractionals.
Looks like the mints way of suckering you out of .00000000000001ozt of gutter metal. Sad part is you will probably be willing to pay more. lol
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An ounce is an ounce whichever way it is struck. If they filed it off after striking then they would be light, but they are struck that way so the weight is the same.
It's just another way for the Gov't to take a little something away and still charge you for it.
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They purposely only included this feature on the 1 ounce coins and not the fractionals.
They will remove the reed on the 1/10th ounce coins in the designer set so they qualify as unique.
This would be a simple way to solve their mintage limit dilemma.
Back at ya AH. Mint image library refers to it as "high resolution." Most people can tell the difference between a drawing and a photo. A few can only claim they are able to do so.
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
The one in this mint photo, or is it also a drawing?
"Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong
Interesting idea.
Currently, the images on the 'product page' for 21XK show both T1 and T2 coins as fully reeded.
Have you 'heard/seen' something definitive, or is this just a theory?
It seems to me that eliminating a reed is fairly simple...and not difficult to counterfeit. Perhaps I am missing something, but with the counterfeits available today, this minor modification will not stop them. Must be more to it than the obvious. Cheers, RickO
A Coinweek interview with D. Ryder from Q3-19.
The portion that pertains to future security features starts at 7:25.
At the time of the interview, the new security features were expected to come in three different levels. The missing reed likely 'falls' into the "overt" category.
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U.S. Mint images are marketing tools and not historical records. They may or may not represent reality. I once saw an image of a gold-colored Sacagawea Dollar design with a "FIVE DOLLARS" denomination and a W mint mark, and I don't think it ever existed in reality (but I cannot be sure). Not worth starting a war over.
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The image on the Mint's website shows the missing reed for the 1 oz. AGE and the 1 oz. ASE...
The 1 oz. is the ONLY coin that has the missing reed.
The posted picture above is a 1/2 oz. AGE and NO fractional coins have the missing reed...
https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2021-american-eagle-gold-one-ounce-proof-coin-obverse-new-design.jpg
https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/2021-american-eagle-silver-one-ounce-proof-coin-obverse-new-design.jpg
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I was just theorizing – just getting peoples’ imaginative juices flowing and preparing them for the inevitable.
It would be the kind of marketing strategy/gimmickry that the Mint has come to employ recently to create hype - and manufacture a rarity out of bullion blanks.
They wouldn't be violating the mintage limit if the coins in the designer product are minted differently.
They would be a mintage and a product limit of 5000 each.
Thus getting around the mintage limit violation.
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My two arrived today. I took side by side pics and tried to do a reeding shot.
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