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Would love opinion on my 1960 D Copper penny
Dnice8
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Hi there,
I have a 1960 D copper penny and I am confused by the date size. I have attached pics including a closeup using my digital microscope and the scale I used to weigh it. When I took the pic of it on the scale it was on a surface that was ever so slightly uneven, so the weight came out a tad larger. Any help on whether this is a small date or large date, any idea of what grade it could fall into and whether or not I should bother having this sent to PCGS for grading would be appreciated. I have tried to figure it out myself but am stuck.
Thanks so much!!
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That is a large date with a slight amount of die erosion doubling on the date & mint mark.
It looks like a mint state MS coin but not a high enough grade to justify sending it in.
Large date that looks to be in AU or low MS condition, not a coin that I would suggest you send in for grading as you can buy an already graded one in a higher grade for what it will cost to send.
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It's a large date. I don't know condition - Maybe AU58 or low MS. And no - do not waste the money to get it graded. It is a very common coin. You would probably need it to grade MS67 to make any of your grading fees back.
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Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback. I would have wasted the money sending it in because I am not well versed enough on grading yet. You all really helped me.
Yes ... it's a large date.
Grading is a challenge for lots of us. You might consider checking ebay periodically for cheap (a few to several dollars) slabbed common coins. You can use those as a reference for comparing the various mint state grades.
telling a slightly worn coin and not can be hard from photos.
keeping that in mind, you can still get some practice using PCGS' PhotoGrade
https://www.pcgs.com/photograde#/Lincoln/Grades
let's just say there is no wear... just sayin' you are then looking at MS grades. the lower the MS grade, the more beat up it is.
just looking at you obverse, it is pretty beaten up. and if there is a little wear that's hard to see in your pics... you're talking what seems to be an AU coin and you're grading wear there.
I'm seeing a MS-63 large date...value is minimal.
It's not a Penny, it is a cent.
Unless you're the Penny Lady
Even if it was a small date it wouldn't be worth the cost of slabbing.
Good questions, good pictures... Unfortunately not a coin worth slabbing.... Good luck in your searches. Cheers, RickO
If you had even considered sending that coin in for grading you need to step back and learn a lot more about coins before spending and more money. The coin is an ultra-common 1960-D large date cent that is worth very, very little over face value.
I have a few 1960P large dates. Bought at estate at face.
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Thanks so much. I am confused because I read articles that seem conflicting. Since I am not good with grading, I thought mine look pretty good, and on PCGS there were a couple of auctions that were very high for large date copper CENTS (LOL). I know that I need more experience in learning how to grade. Especially now! I would have thought mine was at least an MS 62+ since it is fully red (to me) and, although I did see more wear on mine, I didn't see that big of a variation in scratches, wear, etc. between mine and this one that sold for $20K (please note I did not assume mine was worth that much, I was hoping maybe it was worth $100):
https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1960-d-1c-large-date-rd/2866
Another area that I really grapple with is figuring out the difference between large and small dates. I have a bunch of the 1982 D copper cents, but I just assume they are the worthless ones because I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what in the heck the size of the dates are. They all look different and then after my eyes start glossing over, they all look the same. It is maddening! So, hats off to all of you. You have my utmost respect. This is such a fun hobby but it is also so difficult for me that I am frustrated alot.
Dnice8,
This is the best descriptive tutorial that I have found for determining the Lincoln cent date size for the 4 different years:
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/smalldates/smalldates.html
Interesting discussion.
it also helps to set aside one of each for comparison
@Dnice8 said:
pcgs uses software to pull auctions and prices off the web. there are mistakes made with retrieval.
That coin did not sell for $20k and I can assure it won't anytime in the future
here are some listed 1960 D MS67RD large dates on ebay right now:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=1960+d+(large,+lrg,+lg)+67&_sacat=0
There are marks all over your coin vs. a 67
This has been so helpful! Thank you all so much! I had no idea that the PCGS auction prices could be incorrect. I took them as biblical with regard to pricing.
@MsMorrisine Those comparison shots really helped. I was focusing solely on what I considered to be scratches on the face (please forgive what I know is incorrect terminology on that). I have stared at that coin for so long that I did not even see all of the other marks. How sad is that? LOL. Also, with the picture you posted of the small date vs large date, I can see it when comparing those two, but it is so hard for me to differentiate when I have a single coin to view.
@hbarbee Thank you for the recommendation! I will certainly look into that.
Again, thank you all very much. I would also like to give myself a shoutout today for learning how to send an @ to people in this thread. I have come so far. I feel like a job in IT is in my future.
I had the same trouble
If you find a sm date, keep one of each for reference
What she said ^