Overdates for the Weekend
LanceNewmanOCC
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overdates/re-punched dates or numerals/re-cut dates/inverted/horizontal - whatever configuration you can figur-ation out!
have fun with it!
MAX
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Question,
where is the over date.? I see die cracks and that is it?
Colombia 20 centavo, 1947/5. Lots of overdates on Colombian coins in the late 1940s, but most of them are not this prominent.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
the last 7 is over a 6 which you can see in the top crossbar of the 7. there is one on the dime as well.
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Are you able to prove it?
I only have one
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
Overdates/blundered dates are pretty cool...
yes
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Why would he need to when others already have, it's listed in the CPG and on Coin Facts:
https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1877-6-50c-overdate-fs-301/396592
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
wonderful coins. tx for sharing them.
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Coinfacts may list it as such but there is not proof, now if they had an over photo....
i appreciate challenging things as much as the next guy but this really isn't one of those that is in contention.
do some homework and you will see it for yourself. d/l the wonderfully high-grade quality images (really just sickening how many large high-quality images are available at our fingertips) and learn the basics of 1-2 programs, look at many other rpd, overdates etc. then show is your results. if you are really that concerned or curious. - some of the best threads are those with the knowledge, willingness and moxie to challenge things like this and even then sometimes, there still are disagreements. we just move on until the next.
i look forward to one of your future threads expressing your concerns or validating what you have found is true for this or any other; like MANY of us have done on MANY occasions.
normally i would just knock something like this out but this one is so obvious and i am relaxing after a fairly humid day which really zaps my energy.
last thought; it is possible there are mint records stating these things. there are a good couple of places to start, if you've been paying attention here.
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1829/7 MS65 with CAC:
https://images.pcgs.com/TrueView/34941416_Medium.jpg
https://caimages.collectors.com/coinimages/42396/34941416/521696-3[1].jpg
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
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1918/7 D Buffalo. PCGS F12
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Mr_Spud
How about a 1 over 1?
Mr_Spud
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LOL the VERY definition of an date over a date.
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@NSP really nice accumulation you have there
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These are hard to see the over dates but the LC is an 1820/19 and the bust dime is an 1830/29. Very low grade/culls.
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HalfDimeDude made me aware that this one is a mpd and rpm. I hadn’t noticed the 7 in the denticles or the s/s until he pointed them out to me
Mr_Spud
Mr_Spud
see next post
s/re-punched dates or numerals/re-cut dates/inverted/horizontal - whatever configuration you can figur-ation out!
Much better photo for my tastes, thanks for the education
nice.
i tried for several minutes from a few sources to get a high-grade 1877/6-cc dime to post for ya but came up with nada. maybe i was too tired but i didn't find ANY on heritage and coinfacts images are lower grade examples. it looks virtually identicle to its half big brother.
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My current "Box of 20"
1853 over 2 double eagle. The only overdate in the $20 Lib series.
NGC VG-10 CAC
PCGS AU-55 CAC
1824 Over Various Dates
Dave
1852/1 lll US 3 cent silver very rare in any grade.
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Half dollars:
i could follow this thread all day long
There is a clear and obvious remnant of the 6 atop the 7, so nothing to prove.
Many overdates show remnants of the underdate inside or on either side of the replacement digit(s). Those remnants are very near the level of the field.
Some overdates show remnants of the underdate deeper into the die than the replacement digit(s), so that the remnants of the original digit(s) sit atop the replacement digit(s). The earliest publication of such an overdate that I am aware of was an 1880 8/7 that I published in Collectors Clearinghouse back in 1975. It was later assigned a number as VAM-23.
Always enjoy seeing the ones I don't need a magnifying glass, scanning electron microscope or slabs telling me.
Well, let's see what we can do with what pictures I have ...
Probably the best Dime Overdate I have is this one
1823/2 Large E's
As for Quarters, probably this one
1825/4 B-2
And then for Halves, this one is pretty cool ... although several others that could make claim
1818/7 Small 8, O-102a
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Todd - BHNC #242
How about a Possible Overdate?
I don't own this one but just did a quick crop from Coin Facts. I did own the 67FB top pop example at one time though. 1936-S 10c FS-110
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
1914 4/3 Die #1 5c-
One of my favorites. Maybe one day I'll own one. Thanks for showing.
Thanks. That coin actually belonged to Mrs_Spud’s late grandparents. We believe it was from her grandfathers fathers coin collection. He was born in the 1800s and the family stayed in the same town where Mrs_Spud grew up in NJ right across the River from Philadelphia.
I’m thinking of getting that coin, as well as some others from the collection, slabbed. There’s almost a whole type set of bust coins in it. I like them a lot even though they are lower grade, because I know no one doctored them.
Mr_Spud
There’s almost a whole type set of bust coins in it. I like them a lot even though they are lower grade, because I know no one doctored them.
Would love to see those.
Here’s most of them. Along with some mercury dimes and other newer coins that her grandparents saved from the cash register in their farmers market/bakery/greenhouse business that was on the same farmland that their family owned for over 200 years.
Mr_Spud
Some fantastic family hairloms Spud!!
Colombia 1777/6
Colombia 1773/2
Colombia 1800/0081