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1796 $1 Draped Bust Better than your typical Chinese knock off...but this isn't genuine...right??

PipestonePetePipestonePete Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 4, 2021 10:21AM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look right to me

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks off to me. The surfaces and hair/feather details look particularly not right.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m skeptical of the authenticity, but dang that’s a cool looking coin. I wouldn’t mind owning it for a few bucks, as I’ll never own a real one.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2021 11:28AM

    Sorry, not good. I have seen this fake several times before. The "Bust of Liberty off to the left" is a 1795 variety, not a 1796 variety.

    She also has two little "vampire marks" on her throat which are seen on all of the these fakes.

    All genuine 1796 Bust Dollars have a centered bust like this one.

    Here is the real thing. It's not my coin, but I would like to have one some day.

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    ShipwreckCoinHunterShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmm, let me take out my microscope. A few words, carry small on the rim.
    I think it spells out “ made in China “

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    sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, much better than your typical Chinese knock off but, fortunately, not too deceptive.

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bad to the bone.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not genuine... and not a great fake either.... Seems to be a lot of these out there....Cheers, RickO

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    truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Sorry, not good. I have seen this fake several times before. The "Bust of Liberty off to the left" is a 1795 variety, not a 1796 variety.

    She also has two little "vampire marks" on her throat which are seen on all of the these fakes.

    All genuine 1796 Bust Dollars have a centered bust like this one.

    Here is the real thing. It's not my coin, but I would like to have one some day.

    Your example is not a centered example

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I’m skeptical of the authenticity, but dang that’s a cool looking coin. I wouldn’t mind owning it for a few bucks, as I’ll never own a real one.

    My exact thoughts.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice fake!

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No kidding, it would fill a hole in my type collection - LOL!

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    vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could afford the fake.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trueblood said:

    @BillJones said:
    Sorry, not good. I have seen this fake several times before. The "Bust of Liberty off to the left" is a 1795 variety, not a 1796 variety.

    She also has two little "vampire marks" on her throat which are seen on all of the these fakes.

    All genuine 1796 Bust Dollars have a centered bust like this one.

    Here is the real thing. It's not my coin, but I would like to have one some day.

    Your example is not a centered example

    I was trying to show that the Chinese copy was made from the 1795 bust off-center dollar with the date changed to 1796. As such it is an easily spotted fake.

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