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Ebay listing for a Lincoln Cent collection, BUT! is the 09S-VDB a fake?

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

Looking at the different size fonts, especially the "E"s in united states of American
I'm not the expert (again) but it doesn't look right.
Is it real, or fake?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174791357929?hash=item28b26075e9:g:A8EAAOSwzGRguYmV

"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no good

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2021 8:06PM

    If that period is next to the D, it’s not in the correct place. That period should be centered between the D and B .
    edited to add… S is bad as well.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2021 9:23PM

    Lets try this.
    Here is a cropped picture of a genuine 09S-VDB.
    Look at what I call the three "E" s in United States Of America.
    Look at them from left to right, the E in United being #1
    the E in America being #2
    and the E in States being #3
    Look at the lower legs of the E's
    Note that its my understanding that there was only one die used for the reverse of this coin (???)
    Look at this picture at the bottom legs of E's then look back up to the top at those E's.
    The #1 E in the collection has a downward angle (Bad) #2 E has an upward angle.
    I've been paying a lot of attention to those E's and those cross bars of the A's.
    Look at the cross bar in the two A's in America, look at the different angles opposed to the genuine one.
    When I see those differences is when I can see some of the other slop in the fonts, notice the lack of opening in the A's above the cross bar as opposed to the genuine one?
    Look at the two legs of the R in America, look how close they are on the one in the set as opposed to the genuine one?
    Now for me at this point most of all the fonts on the reverse don't look right, was there only one die used for the reverse of this coin? (I did say its my understanding)

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    If that period is next to the D, it’s not in the correct place. That period should be centered between the D and B .
    edited to add… S is bad as well.

    And to me that period looks to be to much beneath the loop of the D, but its not a great picture either!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • blaircountycoinblaircountycoin Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    How many different languages does it take to say no.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would pass on that one....All the reasons listed above....Cheers, RickO

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the heads up.
    I too would pass on it.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2021 4:50PM

    I almost always made new threads for these ebay listings, but this one isn't a questionable fake/counterfeit but rather a brainless listing for such a rare coin.
    One really bad picture of the coin in a coin flip, a picture so bad that you can't even tell what kind of penny it is much like any detail.
    The seller has ZERO feedback, which is an absolute No No to be new to ebay and start your first listing with a choice item before you build up any feedback at all!
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/174791352431?hash=item28b260606f:g:GkoAAOSwb-pguYXi

    Its been said by many people on this forum that if your looking at these types of rare coins there is better places to look,
    like,
    Penny Lady or
    Angel Dee's

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Negative No NO!!!

    My name is "D".....and I have a "DOT" that got too close to Me.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The wrong style of the mint mark is what first caught my eye. Too round, no serifs.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The S not having any blocked serifs is a red flag

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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