First generation PCGS slabs are called rattlers since the coins frequently are loose inside them and rattle.
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@MWallace said: @USSID17 and I were talking the other day. Which slab is nicknamed "Soap Bar"?
The early NGC slabs also called "no line fatties".
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@MarkKelley said:
My instinct tells me that the "soap bar" is the PCGS Regency holder as it reminds me of a bar of Irish Spring. Is this correct?
No. It's the early "no line fatty" NGC slabs that were thick and white like a bar of soap.
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I just refer to them all as slabs, often with the TPG initials preceding the word. I have never had an interest in the types/generations, just the coin. Cheers, RickO
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@Lazybones Condor101 has said that First Token was not an authorized ACG licensee. So those have to be slabbed by a licensee as a 2nd label. No clue AFAIK as to who actually did them.
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@BStrauss3 said: @Lazybones Condor101 has said that First Token was not an authorized ACG licensee. So those have to be slabbed by a licensee as a 2nd label. No clue AFAIK as to who actually did them.
As I understand it, ACG sued First Token for using their slabs. This is partially why FTGS was gone inside a year.
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@Lazybones said:
As I understand it, ACG sued First Token for using their slabs. This is partially why FTGS was gone inside a year.
I don't see any signs of such a suit in PACER. No cases with FirstToken or First Token, etc. Probably never got past a nasty letter from a lawyer.
Very likely.
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@MWallace said: @USSID17 and I were talking the other day. Which slab is nicknamed "Soap Bar"?
i googled soap bar and ngc. that yielded some interesting results. a rare combination. numismatics and soap. also some women i've encountered recently. since when did it fall out of vogue to enjoy low-cost, clean water in the first world in the form of bathing?
anywhoo, i tried to find the green insert but all the images were samples, so i went with this. soap bar covers a few generations.
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Thx for this thread. I hear various nicknames and I am not always sure what some of them mean.
First generation PCGS slabs are called rattlers since the coins frequently are loose inside them and rattle.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
The early NGC slabs also called "no line fatties".
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
My instinct tells me that the "soap bar" is the PCGS Regency holder as it reminds me of a bar of Irish Spring. Is this correct?
No. It's the early "no line fatty" NGC slabs that were thick and white like a bar of soap.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I have heard the old ANACS holders referred to as soap bars.
I just refer to them all as slabs, often with the TPG initials preceding the word. I have never had an interest in the types/generations, just the coin. Cheers, RickO
Those should be called Hotel Soap Bars.
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Old Green Holder aka OGH AND Green on Green
Hotel Soap Bar?
I’ve heard ‘Soap Bar’ and ‘Soap Box’ used for the old small white ANACS slabs, and for what we all know as NGC Fatties.
AKA Alphanumeric ANACS Slab
MCGS - a/k/a the toilet bowl slab...
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"Third World" slab
"Prehistoric" Slab
"Series" Slab
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That's cool . . . . insanely cool . . . .
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Sample Slab
Not a slab
But a very nice coin!
That was tidy bowls first job I heard and fwiw
True, but it is clearly a precursor to PCGS, founded by David Hall (hence the term "prehistoric"
First Generation Slab:
@Connecticoin Nice!....not a lot of those around.
Unobtainium:
My huge 1939 slab
I cannot believe nobody has posted links to this site yet . . . . . . . .
I almost forgot about it myself . . . . .
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https://www.pcgs.com/holders
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About the size of a single-use bar of soap in a hotel.
Doris...
Brenda...
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@Lazybones Condor101 has said that First Token was not an authorized ACG licensee. So those have to be slabbed by a licensee as a 2nd label. No clue AFAIK as to who actually did them.
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As I understand it, ACG sued First Token for using their slabs. This is partially why FTGS was gone inside a year.
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I don't see any signs of such a suit in PACER. No cases with FirstToken or First Token, etc. Probably never got past a nasty letter from a lawyer.
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Very likely.
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Tomb. As in entombed.
D'OYLY
1st generation is normally a green rattler.
The White rattler is the 1st generation in reality. Aka OWR
Lakes posted this a while back...
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Did someone say soap bar??
This is why we say soap bar.
i googled soap bar and ngc. that yielded some interesting results. a rare combination. numismatics and soap. also some women i've encountered recently. since when did it fall out of vogue to enjoy low-cost, clean water in the first world in the form of bathing?
anywhoo, i tried to find the green insert but all the images were samples, so i went with this. soap bar covers a few generations.
Gigantor?