I know someone who use to work for NGC and he said it was long hours in a dark cubicle with lots of strain on your eyes. He mentioned the pay wasn't bad at the time but couldn't see himself doing it for a career.
I want to have some old comic books graded that are worth some money. I couldn’t believe the turn around times when I looked over the weekend.
52 business days
I wonder if they pay one grade higher than it should be.
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@yspsales said:
I think Beckett or PSA is hiring as well.
As much as I love grading coins and cards, it would get old quick.
Especially the way the pros make you do it. I would be out in a week because I would be too slow. I would also go nuts grading modern coins, trying decide between PR-68, 69 and 70.
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@yspsales said:
I think Beckett or PSA is hiring as well.
As much as I love grading coins and cards, it would get old quick.
Especially the way the pros make you do it. I would be out in a week because I would be too slow. I would also go nuts grading modern coins, trying decide between PR-68, 69 and 70.
Can you imagine having to go through and grade each coin in several monster boxes of ASE's every day? No thanks.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I could not work at grading coins, all day, every day....would turn me against coins completely. I need much more in a career... well, not anymore... Though I do still work (training, consulting, management). I always felt work was a challenge, interesting and rewarding. Grading coins all day would put me to sleep and likely looking for another job. Cheers, RickO
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
Interesting.
I could see it as a young gun trying to rise in the ranks and get exposure to more coins.
YN's should be taking note!
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I don't have to look for employment. It finds me. As in; When are you going to fix the gate? or When are you going to finish painting the bedroom? or The bathroom needs painting. or The washing machine is making a funny noise. or What's wrong with the microwave. and You need to fix the screen door because snakes could crawl in under it. or When are you going to plant the grass seed? and The kid's bathroom really needs a makeover. and Have you given any thought lately to putting a new top on the patio? or It would sure be nice if that big tree was gone. or My brakes are squealing. or It sure would be nice if we had recessed lighting in the living room. and That pepper tree really needs trimming. or Have you noticed the Devil Grass is taking over the lawn? and When are you going move all that metal junk? or I sure would like to do something about the carpet in my sewing room. and Does the tractor have to be parked next to the house? or That orange tree really could go. and........The oven timer isn't working. and There's a light bulb in the laundry room that's out. and The side porch light doesn't come on. and .....You get the picture.
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
Interesting.
I could see it as a young gun trying to rise in the ranks and get exposure to more coins.
YN's should be taking note!
Agree it sounds like a good job for a YN!
Florida is a great retirement area so perhaps some people could come out of retirement as well?
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
I wish there was a thumbs down option.
Why, for providing unbiased information?
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
Not all non-compete agreements are the same. Some are much broader and/or longer than others. And if they’re unreasonably restrictive, they can be difficult to enforce and even overturned. I certainly wouldn’t automatically pass on a job opportunity, just because there’s a non-compete clause included.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
You cannot touch the volume of coins that NGC would put in front of you by yourself though. You just cannot unless you're a wholesaler or something, and most folks that age that aren't born into money or a coin dealing family are not going to have the resources to run a wholesale operation at that age. I bet the average grader at NGC handles ~100k coins a year.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
You cannot touch the volume of coins that NGC would put in front of you by yourself though. You just cannot unless you're a wholesaler or something, and most folks that age that aren't born into money or a coin dealing family are not going to have the resources to run a wholesale operation at that age. I bet the average grader at NGC handles ~100k coins a year.
In addition to the coins you’ll see, you’ll be surrounded by experts from whom you can learn far more than you would on your own.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
I wish there was a thumbs down option.
Why, for providing unbiased information?
I think you misunderstood.
The thumbs down is because all that you described sounds terrible.
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
You cannot touch the volume of coins that NGC would put in front of you by yourself though. You just cannot unless you're a wholesaler or something, and most folks that age that aren't born into money or a coin dealing family are not going to have the resources to run a wholesale operation at that age. I bet the average grader at NGC handles ~100k coins a year.
Sounds like a recipe for BURNOUT to me.
I was not born into money or a coin dealing family nor had many resources except photographic skill.
I was forced into the coin dealing business, I had no choice other than to do it on my own.
We are from the land of 365 days of 70 and sunny…other folks don’t roll how we roll…let it be and go fishing brother
I agree, and I went fishing all day yesterday. I also went to the beach two days earlier with my wife to go sea glass collecting. SOCAL is so Awesome!!!! It is a paradise for outdoor fun-seekers Own your own business, own your own freedom.
We are from the land of 365 days of 70 and sunny…other folks don’t roll how we roll…let it be and go fishing brother
I agree, and I went fishing all day yesterday. I also went to the beach two days earlier with my wife to go sea glass collecting. SOCAL is so Awesome!!!! It is a paradise for outdoor fun-seekers Own your own business, own your own freedom.
Yesterday's catch ...
You suck!
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Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
I wish there was a thumbs down option.
Why, for providing unbiased information?
I think you misunderstood.
The thumbs down is because all that you described sounds terrible.
Fair enough!
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
You cannot touch the volume of coins that NGC would put in front of you by yourself though. You just cannot unless you're a wholesaler or something, and most folks that age that aren't born into money or a coin dealing family are not going to have the resources to run a wholesale operation at that age. I bet the average grader at NGC handles ~100k coins a year.
Sounds like a recipe for BURNOUT to me.
I was not born into money or a coin dealing family nor had many resources except photographic skill.
I was forced into the coin dealing business, I had no choice other than to do it on my own.
That is why most only do it for a few years before moving on to greener pastures.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
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I think Beckett or PSA is hiring as well.
As much as I love grading coins and cards, it would get old quick.
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advertising for ATS ?
What’s the pay 💰
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Obviously, it will depend on the individual and the position.
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It was Tongue in cheek.
Would be an interesting job, though.
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
I know someone who use to work for NGC and he said it was long hours in a dark cubicle with lots of strain on your eyes. He mentioned the pay wasn't bad at the time but couldn't see himself doing it for a career.
I want to have some old comic books graded that are worth some money. I couldn’t believe the turn around times when I looked over the weekend.
52 business days
I wonder if they pay one grade higher than it should be.
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Especially the way the pros make you do it. I would be out in a week because I would be too slow. I would also go nuts grading modern coins, trying decide between PR-68, 69 and 70.
There's a 'help-wanted' sign in the window of EVERY business that I see.....
Can you imagine having to go through and grade each coin in several monster boxes of ASE's every day? No thanks.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I could not work at grading coins, all day, every day....would turn me against coins completely. I need much more in a career... well, not anymore...
Though I do still work (training, consulting, management). I always felt work was a challenge, interesting and rewarding. Grading coins all day would put me to sleep and likely looking for another job. Cheers, RickO
Per a good friend of mine, it's not good enough to deal with how expensive the Sarasota area is if you do not want to live in an apartment or a modern construction house on 1/5th of an acre, or be faced with an hourlong commute, and be somewhere with good schools/low crime. He interviewed with them last year, asked 85k for compensation. By all accounts was perfect for what they needed, had plenty of experience, and they were very complimentary of his skillset. They passed without an offer, stating they were looking more in the 65k region. He told me he makes almost that much right now in a non-specialized, non-trades job doing manual labor.
Toss in his flipping coins on the side and he would be taking a pay cut, I am sure. The non-compete is a big deal, and applies across the board. So no matter what you're doing, you can't engage in anything involving buying and selling collectables that they handle as well.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Interesting.
I could see it as a young gun trying to rise in the ranks and get exposure to more coins.
YN's should be taking note!
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I don't have to look for employment. It finds me. As in; When are you going to fix the gate? or When are you going to finish painting the bedroom? or The bathroom needs painting. or The washing machine is making a funny noise. or What's wrong with the microwave. and You need to fix the screen door because snakes could crawl in under it. or When are you going to plant the grass seed? and The kid's bathroom really needs a makeover. and Have you given any thought lately to putting a new top on the patio? or It would sure be nice if that big tree was gone. or My brakes are squealing. or It sure would be nice if we had recessed lighting in the living room. and That pepper tree really needs trimming. or Have you noticed the Devil Grass is taking over the lawn? and When are you going move all that metal junk? or I sure would like to do something about the carpet in my sewing room. and Does the tractor have to be parked next to the house? or That orange tree really could go. and........The oven timer isn't working. and There's a light bulb in the laundry room that's out. and The side porch light doesn't come on. and .....You get the picture.
Agree it sounds like a good job for a YN!
Florida is a great retirement area so perhaps some people could come out of retirement as well?
Don't forget no state income tax!
I wish there was a thumbs down option.
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Why, for providing unbiased information?
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
"The non-compete is a big deal, "
This is a deal killer.
Why would anyone who is interested in coins sign a non-compete clause, YN's I advise you not sign one
I think if you are like my friend, in his 30's with an established side business and considering switching careers, this is not really ideal. But if you are 22-26 years old and looking to break into the business, working for them is a virtually ideal scenario. You're getting a decent salary in a nice area, and if you hang with the job for 3 to 5 years, you can get a job almost anywhere else in the business. Working in a skill position (be that grading or another discipline) for a major TPG is pretty much a golden line on your resume.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
I am a do-it-yourselfer.
IMO, the younger you are, it is way better to do it yourself, make the mistakes and learn from them. Build a business.
Not all non-compete agreements are the same. Some are much broader and/or longer than others. And if they’re unreasonably restrictive, they can be difficult to enforce and even overturned. I certainly wouldn’t automatically pass on a job opportunity, just because there’s a non-compete clause included.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
…I’m a professional sleeper…nobody can go lights out for 12 hours better then me baby
You cannot touch the volume of coins that NGC would put in front of you by yourself though. You just cannot unless you're a wholesaler or something, and most folks that age that aren't born into money or a coin dealing family are not going to have the resources to run a wholesale operation at that age. I bet the average grader at NGC handles ~100k coins a year.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
In addition to the coins you’ll see, you’ll be surrounded by experts from whom you can learn far more than you would on your own.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think you misunderstood.
The thumbs down is because all that you described sounds terrible.
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Sounds like a recipe for BURNOUT to me.
I was not born into money or a coin dealing family nor had many resources except photographic skill.
I was forced into the coin dealing business, I had no choice other than to do it on my own.
@ErrorsOnCoins
We are from the land of 365 days of 70 and sunny…other folks don’t roll how we roll…let it be and go fishing brother
If I were not partly responsible for looking after my mother, it might be a good second career move.
Wife has family in Jax and my wife just loves the west coast of Florida...
Hmmm
Hmmmm
OK Mark... how does a 55yo get there in the next five years?
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I agree, and I went fishing all day yesterday. I also went to the beach two days earlier with my wife to go sea glass collecting. SOCAL is so Awesome!!!! It is a paradise for outdoor fun-seekers
Own your own business, own your own freedom. 
Yesterday's catch ...
You suck!
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Fair enough!
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
That is why most only do it for a few years before moving on to greener pastures.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
If I were a young … anything … and was into collectibles I would be all over this opportunity…… collectibles are booming !
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.